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Sep 23 2022 12:12pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 23 2022 03:02am)
So stealing all the grain, the port facilities, and the most industrialized parts of the country *isn't* capital extraction. This just in.

Once Russia annexes these areas and this war is over, whenever that is, Russia will inject capital into them.

No, it's not an imperialist war. Not all wars are imperialist, and not all imperialism requires wars.

Quote (Santara @ Sep 23 2022 03:02am)
LMFAO, you're gonna peddle this bullshit and expect to be taken seriously???

NATO is already on their border.

Russia wasn't strong enough in 2002 to stop NATO expansion into the Baltic states or it probably would have.

Regardless, Ukraine is a much greater threat to Russia than yappy terriers like Lithuania.
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Sep 23 2022 12:18pm
Quote (Palasan @ Sep 23 2022 07:34pm)
Message is that mobilization will be chaotic and messy. I am happy its happening to be honest. Sick and tired of so much time being wasted to deal with Russia. Its time for new age, age of discovery and innovation, of purpose and progress. And while tyrannical dictatorships like China and Russia continue existing the way they are, creating bipolar world and proxy wars we will never get there. Unfortunately due to nuclear weapon it is complex otherwise we would of already captured Russia and used its resources to progress further. World without countries, without borders, without dictators awaits!

Ukraine will play the role of the perfect trojan horse, its not Afghanistan or Iraq where main reasoning for overthrowing dictators is because one group believes one version of bullshit book and the other group the other, and they want to kill each other due to great great grandpa of the other group stole their goat.

Frankly I couldn't care less about Ukraine until very recently where they have proven to be a capable in standing up to tyranny and cronyism, and as they play their role in this I will watch and laugh at Russia crumbling like a statue made of mud in the rain.


That "gas station" as some imbeciles call it, is still in business, all 6,601,670 square miles of it. They got more energy they ever gonna need, more soil to grow crops they ever need, more raw materials etc etc. They also got 6K nukes to burn meaning no one is gonna do shit about it.

Their leaders don't care, they're bathing in luxury and they can keep playing this game forever. History lesson: Even tiny little dots on the map like North Korea give you the finger and just keep going.

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Sep 23 2022 12:38pm
The referendum is in progress. Let's go boys!!!
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Sep 23 2022 12:59pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 23 Sep 2022 11:38)
The referendum is in progress. Let's go boys!!!


I'm sure the referendum hosted by an occupying army will be completely fair and honest.
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Sep 23 2022 01:19pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Sep 23 2022 02:59pm)
I'm sure the referendum hosted by an occupying army will be completely fair and honest.


I expect 146% of the votes will be to join russia
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Sep 23 2022 01:20pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 23 2022 01:12pm)
Once Russia annexes these areas and this war is over, whenever that is, Russia will inject capital into them.

No, it's not an imperialist war. Not all wars are imperialist, and not all imperialism requires wars.


Russia wasn't strong enough in 2002 to stop NATO expansion into the Baltic states or it probably would have.

Regardless, Ukraine is a much greater threat to Russia than yappy terriers like Lithuania.


Spending money to make money does not take away the initial theft of the capital.

And Finland? Finland has gone further in the last year towards joining NATO than Ukraine. What about them?

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Sep 23 2022 01:38pm)
The referendum is in progress. Let's go boys!!!


I love when you let passive phraseology slip and include yourself with your Russian brothers. "Let's" = let US. Good job blowing your cover again huylo.
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Sep 23 2022 01:39pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 23 2022 12:20pm)
Spending money to make money does not take away the initial theft of the capital.

Whatever bro. You're working backwards from the conclusion.

Quote (Santara @ Sep 23 2022 12:20pm)
And Finland? Finland has gone further in the last year towards joining NATO than Ukraine. What about them?

What about them?

The issues with Ukraine are obvious, but you refuse to accept any of them as real because then you'd have to agree with Bad Man Putin about some things. Can't have that.
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Sep 23 2022 01:57pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ 23 Sep 2022 12:39)
Whatever bro. You're working backwards from the conclusion.


What about them?

The issues with Ukraine are obvious, but you refuse to accept any of them as real because then you'd have to agree with Bad Man Putin about some things. Can't have that.


I wish I had a time machine so I could listen to people defending Hitlers invasion of Poland.
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Sep 23 2022 02:10pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 23 2022 02:39pm)
Whatever bro. You're working backwards from the conclusion.

What about them?

The issues with Ukraine are obvious, but you refuse to accept any of them as real because then you'd have to agree with Bad Man Putin about some things. Can't have that.


How precisely is accusing Russia of seeking empire at Ukraine's expense "working backwards from the conclusion?"

The criticism that Ukraine deserves to be invaded because they want protection from being invaded rings hollow when other Russian neighbors also want protection from being invaded.
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Sep 23 2022 02:32pm
Quote (Cascadian @ Sep 23 2022 12:57pm)
I wish I had a time machine so I could listen to people defending Hitlers invasion of Poland.

Ukraine is the closest thing in the world to a Nazi state, presently.

Quote (Santara @ Sep 23 2022 01:10pm)
How precisely is accusing Russia of seeking empire at Ukraine's expense "working backwards from the conclusion?"

The criticism that Ukraine deserves to be invaded because they want protection from being invaded rings hollow when other Russian neighbors also want protection from being invaded.

You just this morning posted about Libya and how that was bad. NATO is not a defensive alliance, it is an aggressive one that has destroyed multiple countries.
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