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Quote (BaHgerAUT @ Sep 23 2022 10:10am)
I never said the west would be innocent. But in case of Ukraine it's pretty clear who broke all the deals.
Russias government is even fucking with their own people. And weirdly enough most happily bend over.


"broke all deals"

Lets wait for the day mexico joins a chinese led defense pact, and lets see how many hours it takes before nukes land on mexico city. You are a bunch of blind rats.

Either russia needs to destroy this east-ward project in ukraine or give up moscow. That is my take. Nato bases in ukraine is no different than when german forces took kiev.

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"broke all deals"

Lets wait for the day mexico joins a chinese led defense pact, and lets see how many hours it takes before nukes land on mexico city. You are a bunch of blind rats.

Either russia needs to destroy this east-ward project in ukraine or give up moscow. That is my take. Nato bases in ukraine is no different than when german forces took kiev.


The point is that ukraine never joined any pact. They were armed after 2014 when russia attacked the first time. Of course they tried to seek help in the west.
But right before the war (2022) russia had guarantees that they don't join.
Russia just searching for a reason to expand west.
Also russia already has a nato boarder since 2004 in baltic states.... what the fuck is the difference there?

fun fact: By occupying Ukraine Russia gets a huge new nato boarder, lol.

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The point is that ukraine never joined any pact. They were armed after 2014 when russia attacked the first time. Of course they tried to seek help in the west.
But right before the war (2022) russia had guarantees that they don't join.
Russia just searching for a reason to expand west.
Also russia already has a nato boarder since 2004 in baltic states.... what the fuck is the difference there?

fun fact: By occupying Ukraine Russia gets a huge new nato boarder, lol.


Baltic states are tiny and not very important compared to ukraine which is massive. Ukraine acts as a massive funnel that opens into all of russia, they want that choke point and buffer no matter what.

There has been no guarantees they won't join by the way, and any guarantees they get are more or less worthless (finland being an example i gave you)

The nato expansion has gone thousands of kms from 1960 to 2014 eastward yet your talking about westward expansion.

Instead of all this garbage talking points, just say US should get 50% of russia and rest of russia is split into 50 parts that are divided and given to european nations. Atleast then your not a bullshiter and ur honest.

look at that westward russian expansionism

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Oh yea soverignty for ukraine but not for solomon islands

OR better yet autonomy for taiwan but not for catalonia. Or democracy in syria, but not in bahrain. Intervention in libya, but invasion in georgia.

Problem with bullshiters like you is that they pick and choose, and always in eu/us interests. Never impartial.

Selective ideologues are satans personal sluts.

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Baltic states are tiny and not very important compared to ukraine which is massive. Ukraine acts as a massive funnel that opens into all of russia, they want that choke point and buffer no matter what.

There has been no guarantees they won't join by the way, and any guarantees they get are more or less worthless (finland being an example i gave you)

The nato expansion has gone thousands of kms from 1960 to 2014 eastward yet your talking about westward expansion.

Instead of all this garbage talking points, just say US should get 50% of russia and rest of russia is split into 50 parts that are divided and given to european nations. Atleast then your not a bullshiter and ur honest.


Another fact you can't deny is that every country voluntarily seeks membership. Nobody in europe wants russia as ally, because everyone knows that you can't trust russia.
It's the decision of sovereign countries that russia doesn't accept. Russia just invades and kills civilians when they aren't happy.

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Another fact you can't deny is that every country voluntarily seeks membership. Nobody in europe wants russia as ally, because everyone knows that you can't trust russia.
It's the decision of sovereign countries that russia doesn't accept. Russia just invades and kill civilians when they aren't happy.


I responded to this before you even wrote it, because i know what selective-ideologue-facist dogs will say beforehand

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Oh yea soverignty for ukraine but not for solomon islands

OR better yet autonomy for taiwan but not for catalonia. Or democracy in syria, but not in bahrain. Intervention in libya, but invasion in georgia.

Problem with bullshiters like you is that they pick and choose, and always in eu/us interests. Never impartial.

Selective ideologues are satans personal sluts.


In the coming years tons of countries will realign with china-euroasia and then we will see how open fuckers like you will be to "sovereignty"

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Baltic states are tiny and not very important compared to ukraine which is massive. Ukraine acts as a massive funnel that opens into all of russia, they want that choke point and buffer no matter what.

There has been no guarantees they won't join by the way, and any guarantees they get are more or less worthless (finland being an example i gave you)

The nato expansion has gone thousands of kms from 1960 to 2014 eastward yet your talking about westward expansion.

Instead of all this garbage talking points, just say US should get 50% of russia and rest of russia is split into 50 parts that are divided and given to european nations. Atleast then your not a bullshiter and ur honest.

look at that westward russian expansionism https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/26674.jpeg


I'm sorry, but why would the US want 50% of Russia? There is nothing redeemable about the Russian people and they are probably below Arabs in the cultural hierarchy. If anything, Russia is going to be subservient to China and it would be wise for them to join NATO so that we can protect them from the ching chongs.
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I'm sorry, but why would the US want 50% of Russia? There is nothing redeemable about the Russian people and they are probably below Arabs in the cultural hierarchy. If anything, Russia is going to be subservient to China and it would be wise for them to join NATO so that we can protect them from the ching chongs.


atleast ur open with your racism, i can respect that 100%. Better than these other degenerate dogs who will circumvent their own birth before they say 1 honest word

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I responded to this before you even wrote it, because i know what selective-ideologue-facist dogs will say beforehand


Again, i never said the west acted good in every country of the world.

But you just justify one war with another, it makes no sense.
Some western countries attack Lybia, so it's fine that russia attacks ukraine. What logic is that?

I can safely say that there have been bad wars of the west, but not in ukraine.

Russia doesn't even find a rational reasoning for the war. They literally spoke of : Nazis, Nato expansion, nato attacks, biolabs already. It looks like they have to make up several justifications lol.

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Again, i never said the west acted good in every country of the world.

But you just justify one war with another, it makes no sense.
Some western countries attack Lybia, so it's fine that russia attacks ukraine. What logic is that?

I can safely say that there have been bad wars of the west, but not in ukraine.


The logic is, US attacked libya because gaddafi was estabilishing an african union. This would act as a counterpower to french/american supremacy in africa.

They acted in their self-interest. Now russia is acting in its self-interest. YOU do not have a fucking monopoly in acting in self-interests. This is the problem with dogs like you, you think you are gods.
1) you do not have a monopoly on acting in self-interests
2) you do not have a monopoly on morals
3) you do not have a monopoly on ethics
4) you do not have a monopoly on anything
5) you are all pissy because chinese have caught up and other regional powers are outgrowing your team. You gonna get fked in the coming 50 years.

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