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May 31 2020 01:58pm
Quote (Ghot @ May 31 2020 03:53pm)
Seriously bro... lemme have some of w/e you're smoking. :)

This is a town that has seen insane riots and actions against police, actions that would bring attempted murder charges on a regular day. And you're telling me, you would just do your job ASSUMING every one was a sweet little angel?


Not to mention that you keep saying "fired upon" like it was a live round and not a paint ball that kids shoot each other with for fun. IMO, those cops are exhibiting the epitome of self control.


Its called using your own rationale against you.
You wouldnt be happy if they shot stuff at you, would you?
Should they presume you are guilty of a crime and treat you accordingly? Its for your own safety.

Not firing on innocent who are on their own property is not the same as assuming everyone is a sweet angel.

I specifically clarified that it was paint canisters, and its still wrong.
Firing shit at innocent people on their property is not the epitome of control. its unjustified aggression.
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Seriously bro... lemme have some of w/e you're smoking. :)

This is a town that has seen insane riots and actions against police, actions that would bring attempted murder charges on a regular day. And you're telling me, you would just do your job ASSUMING every one was a sweet little angel?




Not to mention that you keep saying "fired upon" like it was a live round and not a paint ball that kids shoot each other with for fun. IMO, those cops are exhibiting the epitome of self control.


Not wise for anyone, especially* police to shoot at peaceful residents on their own property minded their own business. Women, children, elders live in a lot of these houses. It's disgusting that people are okay and justifying that behavior by our public servants.

This post was edited by RedFromWinter on May 31 2020 01:59pm
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Quote (balrog66 @ May 31 2020 03:54pm)
https://twitter.com/KCJ_Swish/status/1266913464234237954

Couple in their car get their windows smashed, tires slashed, tazed and maced, without any provocation.




Big words at the bottom of the video: Cops start enforcing 9PM curfew.


OMG... I bet they told those two to go home and they didn't.
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May 31 2020 02:02pm
LP presidential nominee Jo Jorgensen:

-End #QualifiedImmunity for law enforcement.
-Repeal all laws for victimless crimes.
-End the failed #WarOnDrugs pardon all nonviolent offenders with no victim.
I will do everything I can as President to fight for your civil liberties.
Help me get there
https://twitter.com/Jorgensen4POTUS/status/1267176612581294086
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May 31 2020 02:03pm
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LP presidential nominee Jo Jorgensen:

-End #QualifiedImmunity for law enforcement.
-Repeal all laws for victimless crimes.
-End the failed #WarOnDrugs pardon all nonviolent offenders with no victim.
I will do everything I can as President to fight for your civil liberties.
Help me get there
https://twitter.com/Jorgensen4POTUS/status/1267176612581294086


Good to see a candidate respond with policies. Let's hope there will be more from the others.

What does a Libertarian candidate need to be present at debates? A certain % in polling or something?
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May 31 2020 02:04pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2020 03:58pm)
Its called using your own rationale against you.
You wouldnt be happy if they shot stuff at you, would you?
Should they presume you are guilty of a crime and treat you accordingly? Its for your own safety.

Not firing on innocent who are on their own property is not the same as assuming everyone is a sweet angel.

I specifically clarified that it was paint canisters, and its still wrong.
Firing shit at innocent people on their property is not the epitome of control. its unjustified aggression.



I already said twice.... if I lived in a city that had riots like they did, for 3 days... and a cop told me to go inside... I would.



Quote (RedFromWinter @ May 31 2020 03:58pm)
Not wise for anyone, even police to shoot at peaceful residents on their own property minded their own business. Women, children, elders live in a lot of these houses. It's disgusting that people are okay and justifying that behavior by our public servants.


Did you notice at the start of that video... there was something BIG going on (to the right) like half a block down the street.

So as a police officer...what do you do? Just let the people wander around and maybe get REALLY hurt, or tell them to go inside. What if they don't? Do you abandon your fellow officers walking into... something BIG, to stop and discuss it with that person?


You folks are living in a fantasy world. I've BEEN in situations like that. As an observer and on the other side when in the military. YOU ONLY GET ONE LIFE. That's true for everyone, whether they know it or not.
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May 31 2020 02:10pm
Quote (Ghot @ May 31 2020 03:04pm)
I already said twice.... if I lived in a city that had riots like they did, for 3 days... and a cop told me to go inside... I would.





Did you notice at the start of that video... there was something BIG going on (to the right) like half a block down the street.

So as a police officer...what do you do? Just let the people wander around and maybe get REALLY hurt, or tell them to go inside. What if they don't? Do you abandon your fellow officers walking into... something BIG, to stop and discuss it with that person?


You folks are living in a fantasy world. I've BEEN in situations like that. As an observer and on the other side when in the military. YOU ONLY GET ONE LIFE. That's true for everyone, whether they know it or not.


Haven't seen that one yet, been trying to get some peace today. I was just echoing what I heard from my family this morning their REALITY. Mother n law, cousin in law, the cousins gay partner. They just staying home, watching their neighborhood from the porch. Just saying, people won't stand for ANYONE putting their family at risk at their home. Doesn't matter the reasons, it's a bad call and risky to agitate families trying to stay safe.
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May 31 2020 02:12pm
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Haven't seen that one yet, been trying to get some peace today. I was just echoing what I heard from my family this morning their REALITY. Mother n law, cousin in law, the cousins gay partner. They just staying home, watching their neighborhood from the porch. Just saying, people won't stand for ANYONE putting their family at risk at their home. Doesn't matter the reasons, it's a bad call and risky to agitate families trying to stay safe.


I mean, they told them to go inside multiple times. They chose to ignore the direction of law enforcement.

I can't see any reason to not do as you're told when all this shit is going on all around them.
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May 31 2020 02:15pm
What's all this talk about rioting not being supported in the constitution?
You right wingers have been telling me the right to bare arms is to rise up against a tyrannical government for years..
Now you are saying riots are not allowed?
Pack all your guns up and ship them off to Hong kong, at least they stand by their convictions.

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May 31 2020 02:18pm
Quote (Plaguefear @ May 31 2020 03:15pm)
What's all this talk about rioting not being supported in the constitution?
You right wingers have been telling me the right to bare arms is to rise up against a tyrannical government..
Now you are saying riots are not allowed?
Pack all your guns up and ship them off to Hong kong, at least they stand by their convictions.


Rioting and looting private businesses is not rising against a tyrannical government. There's some misfiring going on in your synapses.
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