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Nov 16 2017 01:19pm
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China says 'dual suspension' proposal still best for North Korea


If Chineses appears to be mediators able to resolve the conflict, it's already a victory for them...

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Nov 16 2017 01:46pm
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No...Trump is trying to break up the "not working because it's not inclusive enough" deal.


Iran is too big to accurately police it's nuclear development. Not including ICBMs in the deal was a mistake. Only making it last for ten years was a mistake.

Scenario: Let's assume that Iran really doesn't make any nukes. Let's assume (which we don't have to assume) that Iran is making ICBMs (long distance ones). The time limit on the nuke deal runs out, Iran makes a few warheads, and already has the ICBMs, ready to go.

OOPS.


Hanging on to a bad deal, is dumb.
Everyone should pull out and tell Iran we're making a proper deal, and if they don't like it...sanctions.


Trump is THE ONLY guy saying that. Everyone else said that Iran was sticking to the deal and that it was a revolutionary step in deescalating tensions. Trump wants to tear it down because it was Obama's masterpiece. Probably one of the greatesrt things he did during his presidency, at least the one with potentially the most far reaching effects, and Trump has a serious obsession with Obama and undoing everything he did regardless of whether it was a good thing or not.
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Nov 16 2017 02:18pm
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Trump is THE ONLY guy saying that. Everyone else said that Iran was sticking to the deal and that it was a revolutionary step in deescalating tensions. Trump wants to tear it down because it was Obama's masterpiece. Probably one of the greatesrt things he did during his presidency, at least the one with potentially the most far reaching effects, and Trump has a serious obsession with Obama and undoing everything he did regardless of whether it was a good thing or not.




No, Trump wants to tear it down cause it's full of loop holes and has an expiration date.
Do you honestly think Iran is gonna "learn" that nukes are a bad thing in 10 years.

Technically Iran is sticking to the deal, not because they are good people, but because they too know it has serious loop holes.
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Nov 16 2017 02:24pm
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No, Trump wants to tear it down cause it's full of loop holes and has an expiration date.
Do you honestly think Iran is gonna "learn" that nukes are a bad thing in 10 years.

Technically Iran is sticking to the deal, not because they are good people, but because they too know it has serious loop holes.


“That makes me smart,” Khamenei interjected. He continued, “But I take advantage of the laws of the world because I'm running a country."
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Nov 16 2017 02:27pm
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“That makes me smart,” Khamenei interjected. He continued, “But I take advantage of the laws of the world because I'm running a country."


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“That makes me smart,” Khamenei interjected. He continued, “But I take advantage of the laws of the world because I'm running a country."




I don't really give a f*** what a guy who's busy making ICBMs and harboring terrorists, says or thinks.
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I don't really give a f*** what a guy who's busy making ICBMs and harboring terrorists, says or thinks.


now im mad, i was going to inb4 the woosh but now no one will believe me.
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now im mad, i was going to inb4 the woosh but now no one will believe me.




I still don't care what the guy says.

Anyways, back to the topic of NK.



China says 'dual suspension' proposal still best for North Korea

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-northkorea-missiles-china-usa/china-says-dual-suspension-proposal-still-best-for-north-korea-idUSKBN1DG10Y



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China and Russia have proposed that the United States and South Korea stop major military exercises in exchange for North Korea halting its weapons programs.




Translation: China wants the US completely out of the South China Sea, so China can continue it's action, of claiming all of it, despite it being illegal under International Law.


Like I've said about 100 times in this thread. This isn't really about NK, it's about the US being near the South China Sea. China is behind all of NKs bullshit.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Territorial_disputes_in_the_South_China_Sea


As if that weren't enough, anyone that thinks that NK on it's own, developed their nuclear capability as fast as they did, needs their head examined.
China has been behind this the whole time.
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Nov 16 2017 03:01pm
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I still don't care what the guy says.


WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSH
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I don't really give a f*** what a guy who's busy making ICBMs and harboring terrorists, says or thinks.


I thought you were in favor of Trump though?
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