Quote (thundercock @ Sep 22 2022 08:46pm)

IMO, I think fair would be the following:
1) There is a demilitarized zone that goes 25 miles into both countries. NATO guarantees the security of Ukraine's territory and China (since Russia is now a Chinese colony) guarantees the security of Russia along the border there.
2) Russia gives up all their nuclear weapons and gives them to China. Russia can keep the missiles where they are but the Chinese military will be in charge of them
3) Ukraine gets all their land back
4) Russia pays reparations to rebuild Ukraine and pays the families of killed civilians
5) Ukraine gives back all captured military equipment and soldiers to Russia
6) Russia is granted commercial leases for natural resources in Donbass, Sea of Azov, etc. and profits are split 50/50.

Quote (Palasan @ Sep 22 2022 09:01pm)

Or we just support Ukraine until Putin dies, his vertical dictatorship state collapses, Ukraine gets all of its pre-February 2022 territories back. Eastern Donbaz part and Crimea hold a valid internationally monitored referendums without Russian thugs around. The results of the vote are internationally acknowledged and only then Ukrainian borders are remapped , NATO guarantees Ukrainian sovereignty, Ukraine forever abandons its aspirations on joining NATO or developing nuclear weapons, Russia guarantees not to intervene in Ukrainian foreign affairs and lets them continue the course on joining EU.

We start major crack down in Cyprus, Switzerland and other offshores where all the money/property Putin and his circle hides are, we auction all that off and give Ukraine the money to rebuild its country.
Win-win for everyone, ordinary Russians don't have to bare the grunt of repaying for what Putin and his circle who they didn't even vote for did.

Quote (ownyaah @ Sep 22 2022 12:45pm)

you know, for russia to accept those terms its easier to include moscow becoming the 51th US state



what if that doesn't happen? And instead it turns out russia mobilises and over time you have 1+million russians soldiers in ukraine, a 20 year old war and millions of ukranians bloodied up and in the ground like dogs?

What then? Not much right? Doesn't matter just some dirty hohols? Kinda like iraq right, just some dead other-skins. Doesn't matter what happened to libya either right?

This is the problem when western-centric monkies open their mouths

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 22 2022 10:54pm)

The question was "what was fair" and not what is "expected."

If Russia wants to mobilize a million soldiers to try and conquer Ukraine they can go ahead and do that. Ultimately, the goal is to dissuade ANYONE from invading and we want to make the cost as high as possible. Do we really want a bunch of ching chong ding dongs attacking SE Asia? The goal is world stability and for everyone to stay within their borders.

Quote (thundercock @ Sep 22 2022 02:54pm)

The question was "what was fair" and not what is "expected."

If Russia wants to mobilize a million soldiers to try and conquer Ukraine they can go ahead and do that. Ultimately, the goal is to dissuade ANYONE from invading and we want to make the cost as high as possible. Do we really want a bunch of ching chong ding dongs attacking SE Asia? The goal is world stability and for everyone to stay within their borders.

Quote (thundercock @ 22 Sep 2022 21:54)

The question was "what was fair" and not what is "expected."

If Russia wants to mobilize a million soldiers to try and conquer Ukraine they can go ahead and do that. Ultimately, the goal is to dissuade ANYONE from invading and we want to make the cost as high as possible. Do we really want a bunch of ching chong ding dongs attacking SE Asia? The goal is world stability and for everyone to stay within their borders.

Quote (fender @ Sep 22 2022 11:00pm)

your weird semi-troll posts aside, it's refreshing to see that some people can still read at leaast...

Quote (Santara @ Sep 22 2022 01:44pm)

LMFAO, from the huylo using direct-from-the-Kremlin sources.

FOH

Quote (chopstickz777 @ Sep 22 2022 03:04pm)

Lol.

Not a single "direct from the kremlin" source here but as usual you continue to lie to yourself to justify living in your CIA propaganda approved fairytale land.

Quote (ownyaah @ Sep 22 2022 12:55pm)

"to dissuade anyone", iraq,libya,syria,yemen,afghanistan da da da

Your next adventure will be costly, the other side will be armed with everything you can imagine by the chinese/russians.

Also, just as americans bully their neighborhood and nations 10000km away, the chinese will do it as well given time. You have no monopoly on violence.

Like i said pedophiles talking about world peace now LOL, lay of the kids first then talk about peace

Quote (ownyaah @ Sep 22 2022 10:45pm)

you know, for russia to accept those terms its easier to include moscow becoming the 51th US state



what if that doesn't happen? And instead it turns out russia mobilises and over time you have 1+million russians soldiers in ukraine, a 20 year old war and millions of ukranians bloodied up and in the ground like dogs?

What then? Not much right? Doesn't matter just some dirty hohols? Kinda like iraq right, just some dead other-skins. Doesn't matter what happened to libya either right?

This is the problem when western-centric monkies open their mouths, your track record is absolutely atrocious and you still think you have some sort of moral high-ground..

Its sorta like a pedophile talking about childrens rights