All your narrative comes down to: Give Russia what it wants and how it wants or they will use NUKES ZOMG! UKRAINE Bow down before your colonial master! Let Russian cronyism spread and go through filter concentration camps OR ELSE RUSSIA WILL USE NUKES OMG!

Fuck Russia, Fuck Putin, Fuck what they want, Fuck their propaganda. I pity that gigantic shithole, the moment they start launching nukes they will wipe themselves off the fucking map, that is if they even have any nukes capable of getting airborne.

You have to admin their PR makes Apple wet in the pants.... Imagine having to come up with the spin regarding your failed invasion of a country with a fraction of your population. Facebook hiring Russian marketing specialists like crazy!

This post was edited by Cascadian on Sep 22 2022 11:27am

Ferdia is Irish.

yes, ive known him 15 years.

thats a long time

Celebrate is the wrong word. We acknowledge it.



let them vent. perfectly normal.

IMO, I think fair would be the following:
1) There is a demilitarized zone that goes 25 miles into both countries. NATO guarantees the security of Ukraine's territory and China (since Russia is now a Chinese colony) guarantees the security of Russia along the border there.
2) Russia gives up all their nuclear weapons and gives them to China. Russia can keep the missiles where they are but the Chinese military will be in charge of them
3) Ukraine gets all their land back
4) Russia pays reparations to rebuild Ukraine and pays the families of killed civilians
5) Ukraine gives back all captured military equipment and soldiers to Russia
6) Russia is granted commercial leases for natural resources in Donbass, Sea of Azov, etc. and profits are split 50/50.

or in irish measurement, ive known him almost 4 potato famines.

Or we just support Ukraine until Putin dies, his vertical dictatorship state collapses, Ukraine gets all of its pre-February 2022 territories back. Eastern Donbaz part and Crimea hold a valid internationally monitored referendums without Russian thugs around. The results of the vote are internationally acknowledged and only then Ukrainian borders are remapped , NATO guarantees Ukrainian sovereignty, Ukraine forever abandons its aspirations on joining NATO or developing nuclear weapons, Russia guarantees not to intervene in Ukrainian foreign affairs and lets them continue the course on joining EU.

We start major crack down in Cyprus, Switzerland and other offshores where all the money/property Putin and his circle hides are, we auction all that off and give Ukraine the money to rebuild its country.
Win-win for everyone, ordinary Russians don't have to bare the grunt of repaying for what Putin and his circle who they didn't even vote for did.

This post was edited by Palasan on Sep 22 2022 12:02pm

What I don't get is how Russians are able to keep straight face and say they are liberating anyone when everywhere they invaded there are mass civilian graves


Not sure where this is