All the brightest brains in the world do not rule out and are arguing that extraterrestrials are very much a possibility. Tons of official footage has been released of said "UFOs that aren't real"
It is Russia/Ukraine thread but you went ahead and used "Americans are dumb because they believe in UFOS" as your argument so either prove your point and debunk concrete evidence presented or stfu.
If my ancestors where like you the world would be still ruled by fucking monarchies beheading people for looking at royals the wrong way, you are most likely descendant of some French farmer who 200 years ago said - hey, Britain will never accept United States as a sovereign nation, we should just do what we do best and wave the white flag.

Just so you know UFOS = Unidentified Flying Objects, which what these are. I am not even saying these are "Aliens"

This post was edited by Palasan on Sep 22 2022 10:01am

don't do that. it's shameful and cowardly. i asked you a simple question:

in a hypothetical scenario, regardless of real life feasibility, if it was only up to YOU: which country should hold which regions, and who should pay for war damages?

you repeatedly refused to answer it, for pretty obvious reasons. no need to play pard politics now in order to turn this into a personal thing. no need to lie about me in order to start another shit storm and paint yourself as a victim. you don't want to answer that question, fine - i can't force you to. all i'm saying is that it speaks for itself - especially considering the rest of your post history full of lazy bothsidesisms and false equivalences...

The same guy who is just now saying "don't do that. it's shameful and cowardly. i asked you a simple question:" must not understand how other people perceived his prior comment: "i had hoped you were intelligent enough to recognise this is a hypothetical"

He gets to be obnoxious and rude to you, but not the other way around.

None of them. No country should pay reparations as that was what went wrong at the end of WW1 which led to WW2. No side is blameless in this conflict ergo to put a monetary value of blame on a country would be a recipe for further conflict down the line.

This is my answer. you dont have to like or agree with it.



I would group Fender into those people that are "Hard Work". If anyone does not understand this position I invite you all to reread this topic from the start. This is normal behavior from Fender. i.e. He is incapable or unwilling to clearly state his own position. He is incapable of viewing a situation from more then one perspective, is judgemental and believes he is right and you are wrong. This is born out when he repeatedly uses the phrases such as "dont bothsideism". This position is unbecoming of a user in these subforums noting (to my mind anyway) the net position of these sub forums is to view events from different viewpoints / positions (noting these are international forums with posters from a wide variety of countries).

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 22 2022 10:24am

i'm just ignoring your desperate attempts to make this personal and focus on the hypothetical:

ok, no reparations, regardless of who started the war and who targeted civilian infrastructure in whose country then. understood. second part: who gets the regions in question, who gets crimea? again, regardless of real life feasibility, just according to what you, ferdia, think would be fair?

Sounds like the modern GOP's messaging.

We get to tell you what to do. You do not get to tell us what to do.

nice job cherry picking one thing you can take offense in, while ignoring what happened on the other side prior. you truly are an unbiased judge in this, not just an eternally butthurt rand, taking an opportunity at a cowardly cheap shot...

You made it personal here:



and here:



(note that you bolded those phrases not me, ergo you made it personal first.)

in answer to your second point:

fairness has nothing to do with it. The word "fairness" should be removed from the question. I also dont understand why you are a dog with a bone on these points ?

"fairness" would mean undoubtedly that eastern ukraine become independent. Thats what ukraine gets for bombing the shit out of its own people for a decade and not entertaining a settlement when it could have.
crimea, leaving fairness at the door, should remain part of Russia for regional stability.

please remove fairness if you are responding to this post.

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 22 2022 10:31am

wrong account, chopz. no need to uncritically regurgitate russian propaganda here, completely one-sidedly portraying a situation of targeted russian provocations and meddling in other nations regions as alleged indiscriminate bombing to achieve some kind of ethnic cleansing or whatever you're trying to sell this as, lol.

see, that's why i asked: to remove the mask. now you're hiding behind "there is no fair" again in order to avoid replying to the hypothetical.

I think thats about enough of my quota of Fender talk. If anyone else wants to have their brain melted by conversing with him I will light a candle for them.