Quote (Palasan @ Sep 22 2022 04:33pm)

LOL there is like 60,000 dead Russians in Ukraine so far, and like 20-30,000 their proxies. Russia has to mobilize their reserves which it said it will never do back in March. As far as I am concerned at this point Ukraine can regain the South regions by winter.
Ukraine is the perfect trojan horse to blow Putin and his shithole off the geopolitical map, after this war is done it won't even be a regional power anymore. And I like majority of people in US are all for it.

Quote (ferdia @ Sep 22 2022 06:38pm)

60,000 Russian dead is way above what every western outlet has quoted. I think 20K of their proxies is close to the right number for them. Never say Never ? :). Russia will not countenance losing Crimea. They will go Nuclear if they have to. I preferred the Ex-Wife analogy over Trojan horse, but yes it is the perfect sore spot to cripple Russia. Russia will ever be massive on the geopolitical map noting it is gigantic and ever it will have power and ever regional power. Well alot of americans also believe in UFO's so well, "the majority" is not always a good tag.

Quote (fender @ Sep 22 2022 04:37pm)

i had hoped you were intelligent enough to recognise this is a hypothetical. of course you can't make both sides happy at this point, i thought that was understood. my goal here is not to craft a realistic peace plan and send you, ferdia, as a negotiator to implement it, i was just curious what you PERSONALLY would consider as fair. i wrote the line about "both parties would be totally ok with it" in order to signal that i don't want you to hide behind feasibility concerns as an excuse. would be great if you could answer this, but a refusal to do so is an answer in itself as well to be fair...

concerning your "peace treaty": that's literally what russia is trying to sell as a compromise and in REALITY it means:

Quote (ferdia @ Sep 22 2022 04:20pm)

A peace treaty (notice i did not use the word "fair") would be similar to what ownyaah had stated above. if it helps i will say it again:

1. Donetsk/luhansk become autonomous
2. Ukraine writes neutrality into its constitution

/edit, seeing the above

3. crimea remains as-is.
4. no reparations.

Quote (Palasan @ Sep 22 2022 04:41pm)

Yea because these are not UFOs or anything that our government officially admits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RNheEdAgsr0

Quote (ferdia @ Sep 22 2022 06:42pm)

I am confused. I gave you my view and now your saying I refuse to give my view ? perhaps you should read what both I and ownyaah said, again ?

Quote (ferdia @ Sep 22 2022 06:42pm)

I am confused. I gave you my view and now your saying I refuse to give my view ? perhaps you should read what both I and ownyaah said, again ?



Feel free to post a flat earth video while your at it.

Quote (Palasan @ Sep 22 2022 04:45pm)

Your view is that of a defeatist, if people in South Korea where like you they would be living in a commie shithole right now praising a fat midget who never shits according to himself and not top 10 economy in the world.

You must be from France or some shit ROFL

Quote (babun1024 @ Sep 22 2022 04:49pm)

Sources from Russia are saying mobilization will call for far more than 300k, more like 500k. 300k number was for the PR purposes.

Quote (Palasan @ Sep 22 2022 04:47pm)

Explain the video then, its official military footage not some animation or photoshop and its not just 1 2 or 10 pilots reporting these objects they have seen with their eyes and have footage of. I will believe their words over the words of some white flag waving metrosexual eurotrash any day of the week who has nothing but rejection of concrete evidence.

Quote (ferdia @ 22 Sep 2022 17:42)

I am confused. I gave you my view and now your saying I refuse to give my view ? perhaps you should read what both I and ownyaah said, again ?

here it is again, you probably missed it:



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Feel free to post a flat earth video while your at it.

Quote (fender @ Sep 22 2022 04:51pm)

you gave me your "view" within the perimeters that YOU chose to accept, because it allows you to hide behind what you believe is "realistically" possible, since you apparently don't want to tell me what YOU think would be fair, regardless of feasibility. so by all means, pretend to not understand what i'm asking to repeatedly post russia's idea of a compromise, but don't think i don't realise what you're doing. again, it speaks for itself, even though it's not a direct answer...