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Quote (balrog66 @ 29 Nov 2019 21:28)
I like the dude but if you don't worry he'll die in the next four years I got a healthy dose of realism to sell you.


oh i AM worried about his health, but that has nothing to do with what i highlighted. his record and his policy proposals are as progressive as it gets, and that's what counts imo...
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Nov 29 2019 04:13pm
Quote (balrog66 @ 29 Nov 2019 21:28)
I like the dude but if you don't worry he'll die in the next four years I got a healthy dose of realism to sell you.


Indeed. I still feel like 2016 should have and would have been Bernie's moment. It was stolen by a corrupt DNC establishment colluding with the Clinton campaign, and now, 4 years later, it feels like it's too late, like his moment has passed.

Quote (fender @ 29 Nov 2019 21:31)
oh i AM worried about his health, but that has nothing to do with what i highlighted. his record and his policy proposals are as progressive as it gets, and that's what counts imo...


Let's just say that his choice of running mate will be especially important... Same for Biden though.



Quote (Thor123422 @ 29 Nov 2019 20:37)


Meh... I dont think it is expedient to compare ridiculous, made up stats with very clear and significant patterns.

For example, it is a clearly visible patern throughout American political history that Republican presidential candidates, and winning candidates in particular, fell on the older side while Democrats recaptured the White House almost exclusively based on young-ish candidates running on a platform of change and hope. Truman and Johnson got into office as Vice Presidents because the President died in office, and both more or less continued the legacy of their predecessor; Carter's presidency was an "accident of history" in the wake of Watergate. The big Democratic campaigns and presidencies since FDR are Kennedy, Clinton and Obama, who all fit this pattern perfectly. And while FDR himself wasnt super young when he got into office, he ran on his New Deal platform of sweeping change.

On the other hand, the dominant Republican presidents who brought a paradigm shift with them, namely Nixon, Reagan and Trump, all ran on a platform of law and order and of restoring a previous, older status quo. If we really want to bring matters to a (verbal) head, one could say that Democratic presidencies typically start with a revolution, while Republican presidencies start with a counterrevolution.



Another singularity that is both interesting and meaningful is the fact that Ohio has sided with the eventual winner in every single presidential election since the emergence of the current, sixth party system in 1964.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixth_Party_System

I dont think that Ohio's status as a perfect bellwether will end unless a new political geography gets permanently settled in, one in which the Democrats rely on (or rather 'are able to rely on') a "Southern path".

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https://www.yahoo.com/news/andrew-yang-raises-750-000-200008634.html

Yang still hanging tough - despite the obvious conniving by the DNC and Media (same thing we know) to suppress him during debates
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Fuck. That must be a madhouse for a veteran staffer to bail.
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Fuck. That must be a madhouse for a veteran staffer to bail.

it's been clumsy from the get-go so it isn't much a surprise. she tried to call Biden a racist and that didn't go over so well, so Harris then decided to go toe-to-toe with Tulsi and got shellacked. plus the whole fact she's a crooked cop. then she blamed her poor poll performances on 'racism and sexism'..which is odd (or not, it's not at all odd imo) because its the Democratic Primary.
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it's been clumsy from the get-go so it isn't much a surprise. she tried to call Biden a racist and that didn't go over so well, so Harris then decided to go toe-to-toe with Tulsi and got shellacked. plus the whole fact she's a crooked cop. then she blamed her poor poll performances on 'racism and sexism'..which is odd (or not, it's not at all odd imo) because its the Democratic Primary.


Yeah that's not the same thing.
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Quote (Testiclese @ 2 Dec 2019 14:38)
Yeah that's not the same thing.

fine. that said it's not surprising that horrible primary performance is underscored by horrible treatment of employees.
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fine. that said it's not surprising that horrible primary performance is underscored by horrible treatment of employees.


One of her chief advisors and campaign managers was her sister Maya. And Maya Harris previously was a leading figure of the Clinton campaign. Just sayin'... I'm not surprised it turned into a shitshow.
Kamala's sister seems to be an incompetent person, but because she was the candidate's sister, she had undue influence and couldnt really be fired I would assume.
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