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May 31 2020 01:22pm
Quote (balrog66 @ May 31 2020 02:55pm)
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What is the correct response for someone on their private property being fired at?

Please, 2nd Amendment activists, enlighten me.


In this situation? Stand down unless you plan to launch a revolution against the state.
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May 31 2020 01:24pm
Quote (cambovenzi @ May 31 2020 03:20pm)
Targeting random people you come across who are minding their own business on their own property because someone tried to attack you at some other time is not reasonable or justified.




How do you KNOW they weren't one of the same people tossing molatov cocktails?
Me... I wouldn't want to bet MY life on that assumption.


/e You only GET one life, my friend. It's easy to criticize someone else's reaction, when YOU aren't in the same situation.

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How do you KNOW they weren't one of the same people tossing molatov cocktails?
Me... I wouldn't want to bet MY life on that assumption.


Assumption of guilt is not a legally or morally justified rationalization for firing on people you come across and forcing them to go inside.

if you don't want to 'bet your life' that some person on their own porch wont try to kill you, then don't go near them.

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Assumption of guilt is not a legally or morally justified rationalization for firing on people you come across and forcing them to go inside.

if you don't want to 'bet your life' that some person on their own porch wont try to kill you, then don't go near them.




Dude, you need to get out more often. The whole fucking town is insane at the moment.

In a situation where you live in a town that has seen riots for the last 3 days... if an officer of the law, says go inside... you go inside. Or maybe you would rather see the National Guard and curfews?
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Quote (balrog66 @ May 31 2020 09:03pm)
Donald did the exact same shit.

http://www.trumptwitterarchive.com/archive


The dude is a creep. Your seem to put him on a pedestal with that post well he doesn't deserve any of that

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May 31 2020 01:31pm
Quote (Djunior @ May 31 2020 09:29pm)
The dude is a creep. Your seem to put him on a pedestal with that post well he doesn't deserve any of that


Backing out of every argument you make after you get disproven huh?

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Quote (balrog66 @ May 31 2020 03:31pm)
Backing out of every argument you make after you get disproven huh?




That's from 2014... wtf over?


/e Not to mention, Obama was the same asshole that put 70,000 Somalians in Minneapolis... a town of 453,000 people. That's 16% of the population.

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Dude, you need to get out more often. The whole fucking town is insane at the moment.

In a situation where you live in a town that has seen riots for the last 3 days... if an officer of the law, says go inside... you go inside. Or maybe you would rather see the National Guard and curfews?


Like I said, the actions of some do not justify aggressing against others who had nothing to do with it.

Blind obedience to the state is not a virtue.

A militarized police force firing stuff at innocent people on their own property is not the only alternative to curfews and the national guard, which are already being used anyways.
Reports indicate it WAS the national guard who fired the projectiles.

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Like I said, the actions of some do not justify aggressing against others

Blind obedience to the state is not a virtue.

A militarized police force firing stuff at innocent people on their own property is not the only alternative to curfews and the national guard, which are already being used anyways.
Reports indicate it WAS the national guard who fired the projectiles.




I'll ask again... how do you KNOW they aren't some of the same people that were rioting?


/e Because they are home NOW...there is no way they could have been one of the rioters? LOL?



/ee Those cops have wives and kids too. They're just people like everyone else. Is there some reason you don't think they should care about their own lives?

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Quote (Ghot @ May 31 2020 09:33pm)
That's from 2014... wtf over?


Small adjustment, not as much disproven as exposed as a hypocrite.

You can't simultaneously put blame on Joe for getting political clout of these riots, and support Trump when Trump did the exact same during and after Ferguson.
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