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May 9 2018 03:39pm
Quote (IgoSoHard @ May 7 2018 12:13pm)
TIL Trump has documented illegal business activities in Russia but hasn’t been charged because daddy putin won’t let said documents reach the U.S

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ThE sMoKinG gUn Is OuT tHErE sOmEwHeRe


I actually heard about Trump's money laundering for the first time almost a decade ago. His collusion charges and Putin dick riding wasn't surprising to me for that reason.
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On the motivation Vekselberg payments: was it sanctions? Payments start in January, as Congress creates a sanctions bill. Trump fights the bill every step of the way, but its passed unanimously. In August, Trump forced to sign the "seriously flawed" bill, Vekselberg' payments end
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https://www.rawstory.com/2018/05/fck-avenatti-find-new-york-times-nbc-news-back-stormy-daniels-lawyer-cohen/amp/
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May 9 2018 03:55pm
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I actually heard about Trump's money laundering for the first time almost a decade ago. His collusion charges and Putin dick riding wasn't surprising to me for that reason.


Doesnt take much to convince a drooling Bern victim about something he already wants to be true

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Doesnt take much to convince a drooling Bern victim about something he already wants to be true


LOL
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May 10 2018 01:32pm
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https://www.lawfareblog.com/presidential-norms-and-special-counsel-investigation-disclosures-congress



Cool story bro.

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The evidence shows that the Trump team was ready and willing to collude... so who knows. If they did, I hope Trump didn't know about it, because our country is divided enough already. If Trump gets booted from office, his voters will drift even farther away from reality.


His team was willing to get the scoop on Hillary, a well known sleaze ball.

They were morons to meet with the Russian rep, because it looks clear that the whole thing was a setup.
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May 10 2018 01:34pm
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His team was willing to get the scoop on Hillary, a well known sleaze ball.

They were morons to meet with the Russian rep, because it looks clear that the whole thing was a setup.


People call it Stupid Watergate for a reason.
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May 10 2018 01:41pm
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People call it Stupid Watergate for a reason.


It is really stupid, because this isn't amounting to much. Just a whole lot of wasted time, money, and resources.
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May 10 2018 01:46pm
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It is really stupid, because this isn't amounting to much. Just a whole lot of wasted time, money, and resources.


What's ur opinion on the cost of the hrc trials and investigation?
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May 10 2018 02:15pm
Quote (IceMage @ May 10 2018 01:34pm)
People call it Stupid Watergate for a reason.


prior to 2016 nobody was suffering from russia hysteria like they are not. Before the democrat's campaign, it was about as equally nefarious for podesta to meet with Cui Tiankei or the DNC to set up a ukrainian liaison as Trump Jr to meet with some russian lobbyists, but part of the glory of the hysteria is that we can retroactively judge actions and associations through the witch hunt lens instead of the contemporary world, and call it stupid. As far as Don Jr would have cared, he was just skeptically listening to a pitch in hopes of dredging up a longshot oppo lead that turned out to be a bust. Why would that be stupid from his perspective? Nobody could reasonably anticipate the hysteria a year in advance, and just hearing out the lobbyists was far to the safe side of any ethical gray area and a mile into safe legal territory. But a couple years later, we get people shrieking about anyone who has russian dressing on their salad

maybe in our alternate universe where Hillary won we've all been hearing about the yellow scare and the dirty chinamen who cheated the election and pumped millions of dollars into the democrats coffers and the conservative media has been pouring over every connection Hillary and her staff had to the chinese during 2016 and the republican-led special counsel has charged tony podesta and put the disgraced john podesta in jeopardy.
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May 10 2018 02:25pm
Quote (Goomshill @ May 10 2018 03:15pm)
prior to 2016 nobody was suffering from russia hysteria like they are not. Before the democrat's campaign, it was about as equally nefarious for podesta to meet with Cui Tiankei or the DNC to set up a ukrainian liaison as Trump Jr to meet with some russian lobbyists, but part of the glory of the hysteria is that we can retroactively judge actions and associations through the witch hunt lens instead of the contemporary world, and call it stupid. As far as Don Jr would have cared, he was just skeptically listening to a pitch in hopes of dredging up a longshot oppo lead that turned out to be a bust. Why would that be stupid from his perspective? Nobody could reasonably anticipate the hysteria a year in advance, and just hearing out the lobbyists was far to the safe side of any ethical gray area and a mile into safe legal territory. But a couple years later, we get people shrieking about anyone who has russian dressing on their salad

maybe in our alternate universe where Hillary won we've all been hearing about the yellow scare and the dirty chinamen who cheated the election and pumped millions of dollars into the democrats coffers and the conservative media has been pouring over every connection Hillary and her staff had to the chinese during 2016 and the republican-led special counsel has charged tony podesta and put the disgraced john podesta in jeopardy.


Yes, taking a meeting with a few Russians who want to give you dirt on Hillary as part of the Russian government's effort to support your dad's candidacy for president is totally on the safe side of the ethically gray area. Totally normal, totally healthy.

Oh, and Don Jr, Manafort, and Kushner all going to the meeting sort of contradicts the theory that it was some desperate shot in the dark.

It's going to be fun watching you shill when/if this investigation really starts to heat up. :thumbsup:

This post was edited by IceMage on May 10 2018 02:34pm
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