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Sep 21 2022 04:55am
Quote (ferdia @ Sep 21 2022 12:33pm)
there are neo nazi elements in ukraine. either political parties or militia. that does not make them a neo nazi goverment. hope this clarifies.


I already said I agree with that:

Quote (Djunior @ Sep 21 2022 12:31pm)
Lots of your red text refers to alleged neo nazis. While I agree the Ukrainian government aren't nazis the truth is that Azov and other groups consist of a wild mix of ultra nationalists / neo nazis / far right movements.

Plenty evidence available, Western news outlets reported on this issue before the war and they def recognized this as a problem.


The presence of these military units is a problem, like Western media reported way back (as we know).

Putin is clearly using the presence of these units in his speeches, has done that several times now.

It's clearly not all BS that's why I pointed out that you used red text (all BS) for that while it's def partially true.

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Quote (Djunior @ Sep 21 2022 11:55am)
I already said I agree with that:



The presence of these military units is a problem, like Western media reported way back (as we know).

Putin is clearly using the presence of these units in his speeches, has done that several times now.

It's clearly not all BS that's why I pointed out that you used red text (all BS) for that while it's def partially true.


Can we compromise and say that the Ukrainian government, and broadly its people, are ultra nationalist. I can agree it has neo nazi issues in the country but to say its government is a neo nazi regime is a bit of a stretch.

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Can we compromise and say that the Ukrainian government, and broadly its people, are ultra nationalist.


Yes I agree with that.
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Hence the big "if", but it sounds like they're going to go ahead and try regardless. There's no way out for Putin that doesn't involve mobilization.

It sounds like partial mobilization is a go, 300k to start.
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Sep 21 2022 06:00am
yep, full steam ahead, lets see where this takes us.
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Sep 21 2022 06:42am
flights from moscow to visa free countries completely booked out and there are rumours about authorities ordering aeroflot and railway services to not sell tickets to men aged 18-65 ^_^
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Sep 21 2022 07:21am
Hawks all over the globe rejoicing. Thundercock will get what he wants, more dead Russians and Ukrainians which obviously will leave Russia in a worse state.
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 21 Sep 2022 14:42)
flights from moscow to visa free countries completely booked out and there are rumours about authorities ordering aeroflot and railway services to not sell tickets to men aged 18-65 ^_^


But remember, the "special military operation" is not a war and it's still going according to plan! ^_^
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 21 2022 09:21am)
Hawks all over the globe rejoicing. Thundercock will get what he wants, more dead Russians and Ukrainians which obviously will leave Russia in a worse state.


I think most hawks in the West would prefer that Putin is assassinated and his replacement negotiates an end to the war.
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Quote (ofthevoid @ Sep 21 2022 08:21am)
Hawks all over the globe rejoicing. Thundercock will get what he wants, more dead Russians and Ukrainians which obviously will leave Russia in a worse state.


Dead Russians is an unambiguous good.

We ahould reduce Russia to a fine pink paste.
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