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Sep 19 2022 02:17pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 19 2022 03:59pm)
Ah yes, it always comes back to insane anti-China youtube.

Do you actually believe this is real, lol?

Whatever, enjoy living in a democracy where your voice is listened to and treasured, and your amazing politicians pour their heart and soul into serving The Public lmao


is it real? maybe
is china a corrupt shithole where rule of law is a farce? most certainly. we had first hand evidence of this with how quickly 2 canadian michaels got released for "spying" after huawei's princess got detained in canada. china thought canada was as much of a corrupt shithole and couldn't understand why trudeau couldn't directly intervene and set her free the way the ccp set two canadian hostages free the moment their telco princess was let go

i'm fine accepting the reality of how much our democracy leaves a lot to be desired in the west but at least people have the freedom to start their own political movements here and can blast fuck the police in the streets
you can continue your existence licking authoritarian bootheels and crying about how any criticism of china, russia or north korea is imperialist propaganda

This post was edited by duffman316 on Sep 19 2022 02:18pm
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Sep 19 2022 02:18pm
As far as any reasonable human being is concerned incarceration rates in China are equal to like 600-800 million, whole fucking country is a huge jail. Imagine being able to register on twitter but as soon as posting a twit going against the official commie party bs police will be at your door to take you to labor camp.

Imagine 1 billion people having less rights and freedoms (not even mentioning quality of life overall) than US prisoners.

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Sep 19 2022 02:22pm
just to tack on, here: PDF warning https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-12/Global-Predictions-for-2022.pdf

Page 30 for the stuff about optimism, but all the other stuff obliquely measures optimism, I think.
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Sep 19 2022 02:24pm
battle of the multi's

got my money on Netfliz, excuse me Palasan*
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Sep 19 2022 02:25pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 19 2022 11:22pm)
^Santara just to tack on, here: PDF warning https://www.ipsos.com/sites/default/files/ct/news/documents/2021-12/Global-Predictions-for-2022.pdf

Page 30 for the stuff about optimism, but all the other stuff obliquely measures optimism, I think.


Optimism in a country where you will be taken to labor camp for posting Vinnie pooh picture in reference to the dictator ruling your country on social media LOL
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Sep 19 2022 02:27pm
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battle of the multi's

got my money on Netfliz, excuse me Palasan*


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Sep 19 2022 02:33pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 19 2022 01:17pm)
is it real? maybe

It's not, and it's obviously not. I think we both know this.

Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 19 2022 01:17pm)
is china a corrupt shithole where rule of law is a farce? most certainly. we had first hand evidence of this with how quickly 2 canadian michaels got released for "spying" after huawei's princess got detained in canada. china thought canada was as much of a corrupt shithole and couldn't understand why trudeau couldn't directly intervene and set her free the way the ccp set two canadian hostages free the moment their telco princess was let go

That's China understanding what the game was. Trump openly said that Meng was a hostage when he said he would release her in exchange for concessions from Huawei. (Note how it's his decision, btw. Canada is an American satrapy.)

https://globalnews.ca/news/4753011/donald-trump-huawei-meng-wanzhou/

A bestselling book in China was Frederic Pierucci's The American Trap, which is a story about how he (the author) was abducted into the American prison system in order to force a French company, Alstom, to sell critical assets to General Motors.

What China did was understand that notions about the "rule of law" are a sham, a thin layer of make-believe slapped onto what is obviously a hostage situation.

FWIW, at least one of the Michaels is definitely a spy.

Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 19 2022 01:17pm)
i'm fine accepting the reality of how much our democracy leaves a lot to be desired in the west but at least people have the freedom to start their own political movements here and can blast fuck the police in the streets
you can continue your existence licking authoritarian bootheels and crying about how any criticism of china, russia or north korea is imperialist propaganda

These are things you're allowed to do because they have no effect and very little chance of succeeding. All you have to do is look at history to see that as soon as some movement arises that is truly transformative and threatening, it is liquidated through the use of jailings and murders. Fred Hampton was murdered and Eugene Debs was tossed in jail, Fred Whitlam was soft-couped, Operation Gladio was spread throughout Europe.
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Sep 19 2022 03:06pm
Quote (IceMage @ Sep 19 2022 09:23pm)
This is a lame argument that's been trotted out before after Russia does something indefensible and the isolationists want America to not respond.

The way to deal with aggressive actors on the world stage is with strength and unity among allies. Weakness simply invites more malign actions.

Of course, it's worth considering whether the isolationists simply don't have the same values as the rest of us. Protecting the rules-based global order, protecting Ukraine's sovereignty and their democracy, deterring Chinese aggression towards their neighbors, preventing Russia from turning back the clock on the spread of democracy in Eastern Europe the last few decades, etc etc. These are things that the Trumpists don't care much about, so it kind of makes sense for them to oppose any consequences when Russia starts a war in Europe.


How to start a war with Russia starter pack

Step one: Select a former Soviet republic preferably one that has close ties with Moscow. If they have a Russian naval / military base on their territory that's even better.

Step two: Warm them up by paying their gas bills, offering trade deals and promise future NATO and EU membership.

Step three: Get protesters out on the streets, give them EU flags and tell them to shit on Russia. Send Western representatives to address the crowd, promising the West has their backs.

Step four: When Russia freaks out and uses it's military to restore the status quo, dogpile on them with sanctions and provide billions and billions in military aid for the ex-Soviet republic you want to control.

Step five: Get in bed with corrupt far left MSM for propaganda purposes, they will tell everyone that Russia wants to swallow up the Western world and that the people of the ex-Soviet republic wanted closer ties with us all along, and Russia bad bad bad by the way.

Enjoy the war.
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Sep 19 2022 03:23pm
Quote (Palasan @ Sep 19 2022 04:27pm)


why 2 accounts netflix, you couldnt keep up with your caps locks and insulting to mask it, just stick to one account

ya. im a multi with an account created just after d2r launch and 2k+ posts you sir. are a :banana:
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Sep 19 2022 03:38pm
FWIW I think Palasan is Lviv, who was banned last month. Lviv joined, made a few fake trade posts, then spent all his time posting here. Palasan has done the same thing. Zero verifiable trades, just posts here.

This post was edited by kusotarre1 on Sep 19 2022 03:42pm
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