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Sep 19 2022 01:52pm
Quote (Palasan @ Sep 19 2022 12:51pm)
LOL you believe what commies say about their incarcerations rates
ROFLLLLLL you have no right to call someone dumb ever LMAO, HOLY SHIT YOU ARE A DUMB FUCK AMONGST DUMBEST DUMB FUCKS LOL

So you admit that the Western-administered polls are correct?
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Sep 19 2022 01:54pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 19 2022 10:52pm)
So you admit that the Western-administered polls are correct?


Western think tanks use "official stats" commies provide and base their analysis on it LOL! As someone "who has been to China so many times I am basically Chinese" you would know that LOL
But you don't so you are a full of shit degenerate ROFL!
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Sep 19 2022 01:56pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 19 2022 03:41pm)
Here you go: https://archive.ph/GmAHT

And yes, I do believe it because I've spent a lot of time in China. It's hard to put into words how inverted reality is in the world of anti-China propaganda. A bunch of Americans lambasting China for being a police state is quite amusing, given that the US has 6 times China's incarceration rate and the police in America are a basically an army.


i'm not american
try again

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Sep 19 2022 01:59pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Sep 19 2022 12:56pm)
i'm not american
try again

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i57he71uKKM

Ah yes, it always comes back to insane anti-China youtube.

Do you actually believe this is real, lol?

Whatever, enjoy living in a democracy where your voice is listened to and treasured, and your amazing politicians pour their heart and soul into serving The Public lmao
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Sep 19 2022 02:03pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 19 2022 10:59pm)
Ah yes, it always comes back to insane anti-China youtube.

Do you actually believe this is real, lol?

Whatever, enjoy living in a democracy where your voice is listened to and treasured, and your amazing politicians pour their heart and soul into serving The Public lmao


Bruh you probably believe Kim-jungle-un NEVER TAKES A CRAP either LOL! And that his grandfather was born by lightning striking ice on A MOUNTAIN ROFL!
I would never have imagined a day would come someone who claims to have visited CHINA would state that their incarceration rates are lower than ours ROFLMAO!
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Sep 19 2022 02:06pm
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Sep 19 2022 02:07pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 19 2022 02:37pm)
You cannot accept the results of this study because your understanding of the world is incompatible with reality. So anything that complicates things has to be rejected, no matter how flimsy the grounds for doing so.

You should have kept reading to this part:
And you should also know that police (as an aside, the gong'an don't even carry guns) are controlled at the municipal level in China.

So, lets see it, how do you account for this? Clearly, they are being disobedient and slandering the level of government with the most direct ability to send the police into their lives.


I have a hard time believing 95% of a large group agree on anything at all. It strains credulity.

I saw that part. Local government doesn't decide policy, it enacts it. I wonder how many Uighurs were polled.
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Sep 19 2022 02:07pm
Pretty clear that no one here has the ability to deal with the facts of what Chinese people think. All these same people will talk at length about Ukrainian 'agency' lmao
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Sep 19 2022 02:12pm
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Pretty clear that no one here has the ability to deal with the facts of what Chinese people think. All these same people will talk at length about Ukrainian 'agency' lmao


You made a fool out of yourself here forever LOL! HERE IS YOUR HAT


WEAR IT WITH PRIDE
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Sep 19 2022 02:15pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 19 2022 01:07pm)
I have a hard time believing 95% of a large group agree on anything at all. It strains credulity.

Of course you do, because you live in a society where nothing ever changes, where it's an act of imagination to expect things to actually improve over time. Not so in China.

Every time I go back to China it's a different country. Chinese people have seen their lives dramatically change, going from being perhaps the poorest country in the world in 1949 to being, by some measures, as much as 30% of the entire global economy. So not only do they see that their government has been highly effective at the national level, they expect it to continue to get better, which is why Chinese people (again, unlike Westerners) are very optimistic about the future.

Quote (Santara @ Sep 19 2022 01:07pm)
I saw that part. Local government doesn't decide policy, it enacts it.

But you're dodging my question. You are claiming that Chinese people are lying when they report enormous levels of satisfaction with the national government, saying that if they said otherwise they'd face punishment. However, they are simultaneously doing exactly that thing you say they aren't allowed to do when they criticize their sub-national governments.

So something has to give. Clearly they are allowed to express their dissatisfaction.

Honestly, this conversation is insane for someone whose spent a lot of time in China. You're trying so hard to find some way to deny this thing that anyone who speaks or reads Mandarin knows is completely and obviously true.
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