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Sep 19 2022 12:01pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 19 2022 06:49pm)
Everyone can pay for the bullet used to kill your family member for saying aloud wrongthink!


you missed his message. his message was, in alot of countries, even perhaps "undemocratic countries" those people perceive their rights, their democracy (for want of a better expression) as being of superior quality then in another country.

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Sep 19 2022 12:03pm
Quote (kusotarre1 @ 20 Sep 2022 01:32)
What's the point of being able to say whatever you want if in the end you get some of the most unresponsive governments in the world?

If you include in your definition of "democracy" any demand on results, any demand on people getting what they want, the farce of western democracy becomes clear. You get to talk and gripe all you want about whatever insane conspiracy theory you believe in, but you have almost zero impact on policy. There's a reason Chinese people see their country as more democratic than Americans, Canadians, French of Germans see theirs.

https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/articles/2020-06-26/which-nations-are-democracies-some-citizens-might-disagree

Also, seriously, you don't know what you're talking about, Chinese people's number one hobby is complaining about things, particularly their government.


That is exactly like my country.
Whole day everyday complain and talk shit about our government in the coffee shops , cafe, Starbucks ,restaurant , bars... non stop.
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Sep 19 2022 12:47pm
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you missed his message. his message was, in alot of countries, even perhaps "undemocratic countries" those people perceive their rights, their democracy (for want of a better expression) as being of superior quality then in another country.


His message was "people in THOSE countries get as much from their governments as you get from yours, or even more" while glossing over whatever else they "get" from their countries.
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Quote (Santara @ Sep 19 2022 06:59pm)
Step four point one: Properly blame Russia because Russia actually started the war.


WW3 is going to be better
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His message was "people in THOSE countries get as much from their governments as you get from yours, or even more" while glossing over whatever else they "get" from their countries.


a fair point.
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Sep 19 2022 12:52pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 19 2022 10:49am)
Everyone can pay for the bullet used to kill your family member for saying aloud wrongthink!

Heh, you just don't know anything about the world. You should save up and travel somewhere, and do it with an open mind.

Chinese people complain, and protest, and bitch and moan about every damn thing. The difference is that the CPC actually listens and changes their policies, unlike in the West where no one ever gets anything they want and it's a damn miracle anytime a government or leader is popular for longer than a month.

I know you're not a reader, but at least skim this: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/

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Quote (kusotarre1 @ Sep 19 2022 07:52pm)
Heh, you just don't know anything about the world. You should save up and travel somewhere, and do it with an open mind.

Chinese people complain, and protest, and bitch and moan about every damn thing. The difference is that the CPC actually listens and changes their policies, unlike in the West where no one ever gets anything they want and it's a damn miracle anytime a government or leader is popular for longer than a month.

I know you're not a reader, but at least skim this: https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2020/07/long-term-survey-reveals-chinese-government-satisfaction/


a very good rebuttal (and yes i read it).

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Quote (Djunior @ Sep 19 2022 01:49pm)
WW3 is going to be better


I love how your point all along is "we should feel bad and worry that Russia might do something unhinged because Russia feels bad."

Fuck them.

No one made them start a war.

They started a war.

They're going to lose it.

Fucking rampaging orcs. Time to join the human race, Pootey Put.
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Sep 19 2022 01:11pm
Quote (Santara @ Sep 19 2022 09:04pm)
I love how your point all along is "we should feel bad and worry that Russia might do something unhinged because Russia feels bad."

Fuck them.

No one made them start a war.

They started a war.

They're going to lose it.

Fucking rampaging orcs. Time to join the human race, Pootey Put.


The world is paying the price already mr smartypants

I was right, you are wrong
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Quote (Djunior @ 20 Sep 2022 03:11)
The world is paying the price already mr smartypants

I was right, you are wrong


I think the situation will be more evident when it hits next year Jan and Feb.
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