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Mar 8 2022 04:36am
Quote (Frosch01 @ Mar 8 2022 09:17am)
...and this will be the reason they will not have any chance to join the EU


and

Quote (Frosch01 @ Mar 8 2022 10:33am)
to join the Euope union you have to meet certain requirements...to join the EU is about 10xtimes harder as joining the nato


Your original statement related to the EU, not Nato. Therefore my response:

EU: "join the EU"
Ukraine: "yes please"
Russia: "oh no you dont"
Aftermath = Rubble
Ukraine: "can we still join"
EU: "no your worth less now"
Ukraine: "???"

related to EU, not Nato. I was not asked re: chance to join Nato.

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Your original statement related to the EU, not Nato. Therefore my response related to EU, not Nato. I was not asked re: chance to join Nato.

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Mar 8 2022 04:40am
quick statement from me to clarify my position:

IN MY OPINION: The WEST still wants Ukraine in NATO, still wants Ukraine in EU TRADE DEAL and still wants UKRAINE in EU. it will just take longer (accepting and agree with your statement re: to join the European Union you have to fulfill certain requirements and these are destroying russia in the long run.. to join the EU is about 10xtimes harder as joining the nato).

I trust this clarifies ?

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Mar 8 2022 05:07am
I've seen mentioned that 20K foreigners have now joined the Ukraine foreign legion and mentioned that 17000 anti-tank missiles were brought into Ukraine in 6 days time. And of course that NATO want Poland to hand over jets to Ukraine.

All of these actions are screaming escalation.
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Mar 8 2022 05:10am
yes, applying "maximum pressure" translates to : lets escalate, at least thats my view.

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Mar 8 2022 05:29am
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I've seen mentioned that 20K foreigners have now joined the Ukraine foreign legion and mentioned that 17000 anti-tank missiles were brought into Ukraine in 6 days time. And of course that NATO want Poland to hand over jets to Ukraine.

All of these actions are screaming escalation.


Maybe you don't remember the Cold War, and all the attendant proxy wars where the US and the USSR supplied and funded each other's opposition? Never blew up into a full fledged war. There's a simple solution to having your tanks and jets obliterated by portable missile fire: GTFO of the country you invaded.
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Maybe you don't remember the Cold War, and all the attendant proxy wars where the US and the USSR supplied and funded each other's opposition? Never blew up into a full fledged war. There's a simple solution to having your tanks and jets obliterated by portable missile fire: GTFO of the country you invaded.


Quote (Djunior @ Mar 8 2022 11:07am)
I've seen mentioned that 20K foreigners have now joined the Ukraine foreign legion and mentioned that 17000 anti-tank missiles were brought into Ukraine in 6 days time. And of course that NATO want Poland to hand over jets to Ukraine.

All of these actions are screaming escalation.


it may be that the west (read: America and Nato) think this way. i.e. that they expect the same outcome (i.e. no escalation) if they provide all this military aid to Ukraine and expect Russia to accept that as an item not worthy of "escalation". I think thats incredibly dangerous myself.
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Mar 8 2022 05:45am
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it may be that the west (read: America and Nato) think this way. i.e. that they expect the same outcome (i.e. no escalation) if they provide all this military aid to Ukraine and expect Russia to accept that as an item not worthy of "escalation". I think thats incredibly dangerous myself.


Vietnam, Syria and Afghanistan were all meddled in, and didn't lead to wider war.
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Mar 8 2022 05:48am
Quote (Santara @ Mar 8 2022 12:29pm)
Maybe you don't remember the Cold War, and all the attendant proxy wars where the US and the USSR supplied and funded each other's opposition? Never blew up into a full fledged war. There's a simple solution to having your tanks and jets obliterated by portable missile fire: GTFO of the country you invaded.


You cannot compare are you just completely clueless? This isn't a war in some random country, the stakes are high we're dealing with a nuclear power acting to defend it's borders just like the US during the Cuban missile crises.

You don't seem to know what you're talking about.
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Quote (Frosch01 @ Mar 8 2022 10:41am)
both of u are just wrong about everything. and im not going to debatte it with ppl with no military background.

stop talking your call of duty crap pc game. thats real life
and it hurts to just read all of ur BS

denying they run the air space or they in control of the majority of the country even they did not took every single inch ..is just a criminal act against hunanity ppl dying because of ppl talk BS like u bith

the war is already over. just face it. or keep talking and be responsible for death ukraine kids and females. fact


and the most important part u have to understand what russia is doing right now is what ukraine civil population was asking about. when they did decide to give weaponss to the civil population.

knowing we would bomb that civ population with drones or drop a atomic bomb like 45 when they resist


lol talking about military background
yet mentioning drones with nuclear atomic bombs and Russia
using nuclear weapon on Ukraine (basically the same as shooting anywhere on its western territor)
For the love of Jesus lay off the meth dude

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