You show me first where I claimed it's a feat of strength. My post is clear for all to see and not edited.

I claimed workarounds and I claimed Russians have to cope. I also claimed it's a knocked-down version.

Go

Highly doubt they are doing fine. They probably won't collapse any second either. This war will either last for many years in a more or less status quo or escalate to something huge.

Russia can't take Ukraine with that amount of infantry. It's just not possible. There are probably millions of ukrainians defending vs 150k or what? Based on numbers and investments, Ukraine will get the upper hand over time. The question is just, when they will get nuked if they start to make serious gains.

This post was edited by Impy on Sep 8 2022 08:46am

A *sign* of strength. As in that their economy is strong.

My god you can't even comprehend English.

Your argument is basically "Look, they made a car that lacks basic safety features. This shows their economy is doing fine!". You've destroyed your own argument.

Your argument is their automotive manufacturing collapsed LMK if I need to quote you from previous posts.

I state they're working around the sanction, have to cope and produce a knock off version. Nowhere I stated this is a sign of strength. I'm pointing out they're capable of producing cars again despite sanctions.

I obliterated you this entire argument. You now have to resort to moving the goalposts by claiming I meant they're going strong and not only that, you feel the need to point out I typed feat instead of sign which shows you got completely bamboozled.

You've got no arguments left, lol

Few notes on recent campaigns.

Kherson offensive was largely a failure. Ukraine took some towns but nothing really of significance. I'm seeing some say that the Kherson offensive was essentially diversion to pull Russian troops into the southern theatre with the real target being east of Kharkov in the Izium direction. This seems like a logical take in my opinion. Over the last week or so, Ukraine has mounted a significant push into the direction of Izium. They outnumber the Russians significantly and in the last 48 hours or so have been trying to take a key town of Balakliya, which if they capture this then they can move on the highway that connects Russian supply routes to Izium.

So far the Russians are still holding Balakliya but Russian telegram channels I follow acknowledge the town will most likely fall. This would be significant because if they can capture this town they can cut off Izium.

Only being able to scrape together a garbage car without basic features shows they are struggling to cope.

You aren't smart enough to realize it but this is indicative of how desparate the situation is

lol a car without airbags is still a car, there are plenty cars on the road today without airbags. Seatbelts only became law in 1968 and no one cared before that.

Dude you aint smart enough to understand they're working around the sanctions and starting their automotive production back up after it shut down due to sanctions.

look you know i always look for a balanced view on things but honestly, it is a fact that the sanctions on Russia has led to various issues in Russia, in particular availability of technology and parts. now russia is not being sent back to the stone age but for sure they are going to lose a degree of cutting edge ability/technology.

I understand just fine. Your argument is "Them being able to make a minimally functional automobile shows they are working around sanctions" and my point is "The fact that they can only barely scrape together one functional automobile without basic safety features just six or so months into sanctions shows they are struggling".



I'd only describe Djunior as balanced if I was being ridiculously generous. He takes his sample from a highly right skewed set of data, and then takes the middle of that without removing any extremes on the right and actively excluding anything center-left.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Sep 8 2022 09:44am

and again, this i agree with.

your arguement would be in clearer water if you were to argue whether sanctions have had their intended affect, namely a change in policy / strategy from the country being sanctioned. The answer to that is a clear no, and it was ever going to be a no, ergo sanctions have not been used to change russia's strategy, but to isolate russia. to put it another way, they have weaponized sanctions Thats a better arguement then to question if sanctions have affected russia (as they clearly have).

This post was edited by ferdia on Sep 8 2022 09:47am