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Nov 23 2019 09:24pm
Quote (GLYC123 @ Nov 23 2019 04:39pm)
You're allowed your opinion, and that's your choice. Not really interested in trying to change others minds on the guy, as most people have already made up their mind and are sticking to their story no matter what they're shown.

I also really don't care to read on every single click bait article about Trump, nor do I have the time.
I've looked into several of them in the past and I'm done. It's a waste of time, and just generating revenue for the media.
99% of it is as much of a sham as this impeachment hearing. Just watch the impeachment hearings then watch the news headlines that follow, "BOMBSHELL TESTIMONY". Yet any person that looks at it objectively found no bombshell testimony being displayed.

My opinion is. Trumps not that bad of a guy. No more corrupt than previous politicians. (He does need to stop tweeting or have more supervision over his tweets though). My stance is, the man is a billionaire. He easily could just live out his days doing whatever he wants with no care. I side with the opinion, that the man might be arrogant at times, but that he is trying to help out the nation, even if that means helping America also with the side purpose of boosting his own image.

Regardless, I don't care. If it does good things for the nation, then I'm all for it. I vote for policy, and I've liked some of things he's done so far. Additionally, I admire that the guy doesn't just crumble when thrown any opposition. Had we had a weaker Republican president that would have gave into the rage culture, we would have had infinitely worse results. The man actually speaks his mind, even if it's an unpopular opinion, or may generate some backlash. Which is better than a weak president that speaks solely to please and doesn't actually emphasize an issue.

Can pretty much guarantee I will be voting for the guy during 2020.

As another poster said, there isn't even another option.


Ok 99% of it is a sham. Lets just talk about the unpaid labour then
There are quite a few lawsuits out there
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At least 60 lawsuits, along with hundreds of liens, judgments, and other government filings reviewed by the USA TODAY NETWORK, document people who have accused Trump and his businesses of failing to pay them for their work. Among them: a dishwasher in Florida. A glass company in New Jersey. A carpet company. A plumber. Painters. Forty-eight waiters. Dozens of bartenders and other hourly workers at his resorts and clubs, coast to coast. Real estate brokers who sold his properties. And, ironically, several law firms that once represented him in these suits and others.

Trump’s companies have also been cited for 24 violations of the Fair Labor Standards Act since 2005 for failing to pay overtime or minimum wage, according to U.S. Department of Labor data. That includes 21 citations against the defunct Trump Plaza in Atlantic City and three against the also out-of-business Trump Mortgage LLC in New York. Both cases were resolved by the companies agreeing to pay back wages.

Litigator in chief

In addition to the lawsuits, the review found more than 200 mechanic’s liens — filed by contractors and employees against Trump, his companies or his properties claiming they were owed money for their work — since the 1980s. The liens range from a $75,000 claim by a Plainview, N.Y., air conditioning and heating company to a $1 million claim from the president of a New York City real estate banking firm. On just one project, Trump’s Taj Mahal casino in Atlantic City, records released by the New Jersey Casino Control Commission in 1990 show that at least 253 subcontractors weren’t paid in full or on time, including workers who installed walls, chandeliers and plumbing.

And the man has acknowledged welching people with the rationale below
"Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I’ll deduct from their contract, absolutely. That’s what the country should be doing."
-Donald Trump

What do you make of his rationale for not paying people

I havent gone over each and everysingle case myself but given the sheer number of them i think its safe to say the president is a welcher

This post was edited by duffman316 on Nov 23 2019 09:27pm
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Nov 23 2019 09:29pm
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Ok 99% of it is a sham. Lets just talk about the unpaid labour then
There are quite a few lawsuits out there

And the man has acknowledged welching people with the rationale below
"Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I’ll deduct from their contract, absolutely. That’s what the country should be doing."
-Donald Trump

What do you make of his rationale for not paying people

I havent gone over each and everysingle case myself but given the sheer number of them i think its safe to say the president is a welcher


Theres more that aren't even active because the company couldnt absorb the loss from not being paid and went under.
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Nov 23 2019 09:35pm
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Journalists suffering from TDS need to learn to code. This shit is getting out of hand.
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Nov 23 2019 09:37pm
Quote (EndlessSky @ Nov 23 2019 09:35pm)
Journalists suffering from TDS need to learn to code. This shit is getting out of hand.


http://www.salon.com/2019/11/23/fired-from-the-new-york-times-over-trump/

better teach him to code.
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Nov 23 2019 10:03pm
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Dude wrote the article himself LOL

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Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 23 2019 10:24pm)
Ok 99% of it is a sham. Lets just talk about the unpaid labour then
There are quite a few lawsuits out there

And the man has acknowledged welching people with the rationale below
"Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I’ll deduct from their contract, absolutely. That’s what the country should be doing."
-Donald Trump

What do you make of his rationale for not paying people

I havent gone over each and everysingle case myself but given the sheer number of them i think its safe to say the president is a welcher


That's how crooks justify all wage theft. Lots of excuses.

Sounds like a shitty kid making up excuses for misbehaving.

GLYC: Trump didn't expect to win and wasn't planning on the Republican party being so shitty and its leadership so weak and desperate. He wasn't planning on being president. His wife was devastated when he won. Nobody knew the leadership would do things like support him even though he doxxed them on television and insult their wives. Imagine supporting a man who does that to you? Nobody with noble values.

I just don't think anybody understood how badly Republican party was doing or how low their esteem was after Obama ate their lunch for 8 years straight and they lost every oppressive culture battle from abortion to miscongeniation to gay marriage.

Donald Trump dominated that tribe of cucks so thoroughly in the primary and it was a surprise to us all.

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:lol:
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That's how crooks justify all wage theft. Lots of excuses.

Sounds like a shitty kid making up excuses for misbehaving.

GLYC: Trump didn't expect to win and wasn't planning on the Republican party being so shitty and its leadership so weak and desperate. He wasn't planning on being president. His wife was devastated when he won. Nobody knew the leadership would do things like support him even though he doxxed them on television and insult their wives. Imagine supporting a man who does that to you? Nobody with noble values.

I just don't think anybody understood how badly Republican party was doing or how low their esteem was after Obama ate their lunch for 8 years straight and they lost every oppressive culture battle from abortion to miscongeniation to gay marriage.

Donald Trump dominated that tribe of cucks so thoroughly in the primary and it was a surprise to us all.


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Nov 24 2019 09:28am
Quote (duffman316 @ Nov 23 2019 09:24pm)
Ok 99% of it is a sham. Lets just talk about the unpaid labour then
There are quite a few lawsuits out there

And the man has acknowledged welching people with the rationale below
"Let’s say that they do a job that’s not good, or a job that they didn’t finish, or a job that was way late. I’ll deduct from their contract, absolutely. That’s what the country should be doing."
-Donald Trump

What do you make of his rationale for not paying people

I havent gone over each and everysingle case myself but given the sheer number of them i think its safe to say the president is a welcher


Tell me this. Do you think a billionaire CEO is heavily involved with the payment process of each and every person that works under him or is affiliated with his companies, and that he is out there personally writing these people checks? He is likely completely unaware of any of these jobs being done or who these people are.

The guy isn't running a company that has 10 employees that he's heavily involved with managing. He's a billionaire. He likely has 10,000 employees running under him. When you're rich, you don't even have to manage your companies, you pay other people to do it for you.

Do you think the CEO of any company comparable to the scale that Trumps operates hears every complaint about paychecks, or even is involved with any additional actions/conflict resolution in regards to that (which the issue itself will likely never reach their ears alone)? Absolutely not.

I know nothing of those cases than just statements. Are they legitimate? Possibly some of them are, likely some of them are legitimate. However, there is zero context in relation to Donald Trump making a conscious personal decision to withhold a person's wages.

Your quote, is also purely an opinion. A lot of people complain and will go to a company stating they shouldn't have to pay full price if what they received fell short of what they believe they had been promised. In some cases, yes, I actually believe that is an entirely legitimate statement that I would agree with.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Nov 24 2019 09:57am
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Nov 24 2019 09:44am
Us would have been much more solid with Hillary Clinton. She did nothing illegal and just locked her seat for primary, so what? Maybe a bit hysterical sometimes? So much less an embarrassment than Trump who damaged his country like no one before, the only good point being his existence was a warning, useful lesson, for those who played with fire by supporting him.

/e: I'm often satisfied with Trump's existence; he's a lesson against populism and an opportunity for EU to emancipate. With H.Clinton the story would have been completely, completely, different.
Not sure if it's necessary to have him 4 more years tho, he will probably give the senate to democrats too. Allright, God Bless Trump.

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on Nov 24 2019 10:07am
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