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Sep 4 2022 07:24am
Quote (Lvivz @ Sep 4 2022 03:11pm)
Russian pleb bathing in greatness and living in conditions that represent highest gas/oil prices in a long time. Awaiting decisive victory some idiots here predict, that will change his entire life upside down.

https://i.gyazo.com/a95863241bc278896846e597a4d34243.png



That looks like a Russian alcoholic. Do you think I could find images of Ukrainian alcoholics on the internet in similar conditions? Yes or no

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That looks like a Russian alcoholic. Do you think I could find images of Ukrainian alcoholics on the internet in similar conditions? Yes or no


You can find alcoholics in deplorable conditions in any country, what westerners fail to realize is how wide spread squalor is in russia, which is the most resource rich nation in the world.



Entire cities in russia are nothing but ruins built in 1920s-1930s filled with these "alcoholics", no plumbing no gas, and it what they want to spread to Ukraine. You won't find shitholes like these in Ukraine. (Well technically now you can, since russians spread it to eastern Ukraine over last 8 years)

Give a russian 500k, he will first buy a 300k car and 50k watch instead of actually managing the money properly, and improving something around .

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You can find alcoholics in deplorable conditions in any country, what westerners fail to realize is how wide spread squalor is in russia, which is the most resource rich nation in the world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_CmHTkmHC1I

Entire cities in russia are nothing but ruins built in 1920s-1930s filled with these "alcoholics", no plumbing no gas, and it what they want to spread to Ukraine. You won't find shitholes like these in Ukraine.

Give a russian 500k, he will first buy a 300k car and 50k watch instead of actually managing the money properly, and improving something around .


You blaming poor Russians for being poor is like the pot calling the kettle black.

I've asked Google about things like poverty in Ukraine / corruption in Ukraine / Ukrainian oligarchs, guess what I found?

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Quote (Djunior @ Sep 4 2022 04:55pm)
You blaming poor Russians for being poor is like the pot calling the kettle black.

I've asked Google about things like poverty in Ukraine / corruption in Ukraine / Ukrainian oligarchs, guess what I found?


Of course, but you fail realize where this corruption/oligarchs made their money/stemming from, and since Ukraine started fighting this corruption we where branded nazis who are ethnicially cleansing russians and invaded.

Without corruption putins russia cannot exist or maintain its regime, but ofc most westerners will still believe in a fabricated truth rather than seeing what this conflict is truly about.

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Sep 4 2022 08:09am
Quote (Djunior @ Sep 4 2022 04:55pm)
You blaming poor Russians for being poor is like the pot calling the kettle black.

I've asked Google about things like poverty in Ukraine / corruption in Ukraine / Ukrainian oligarchs, guess what I found?


Here Ill make it even easier for you to understand why Putin can only maintain his regime if Ukraine is in constant state of warfare/is Moscows puppet, especially eastern parts where oil/gas fields are



And this Ukrainian corruption you speak of, its cancer spread by Moscow intentionally, unlike russians whose centrist feudal mentality and constant need of self-gratification through any means possible to create a "dream" they can live in instead of actually doing something about their shithole country and animal living conditions.

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Sep 4 2022 08:26am
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Of course, but you fail realize where this corruption/oligarchs made their money/stemming from, and since Ukraine started fighting this corruption we where branded nazis who are ethnicially cleansing russians and invaded.

Without corruption putins russia cannot exist or maintain its regime, but ofc most westerners will still believe in a fabricated truth rather than seeing what this conflict is truly about.


I don't believe in a fabricated truth. I know how this conflict has started. Here are some pointers in case you forgot.

Step 1: Worsening Russian - Ukrainian relations (clear example: 2009 gas disputes).

Step 2: Ukraine seeking closer EU relations resulting for example in EU paying Ukraine's gas bills to Gazprom and EU - Ukraine trade negotiations.

Step 3: Euromaidan.

You guys have done everything possible to piss off the Russians. Not even talking about Ukraine / Georgia NATO membership which is a huge deal for Russia.


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Sep 4 2022 08:28am
Visokopilya has been liberated from russian orcs, it has long been fought for and is a strategic point. Close to 200 orcs where taken captive today


This will allow Ukraine regiments far more maneuverability in the south, as russians in the northern parts now have to reform completely thus allowing Ukrainians to move man to the Kherson hotspot
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Quote (Djunior @ Sep 4 2022 05:26pm)
I don't believe in a fabricated truth. I know how this conflict has started. Here are some pointers in case you forgot.

Step 1: Worsening Russian - Ukrainian relations (clear example: 2009 gas disputes).

Step 2: Ukraine seeking closer EU relations resulting for example in EU paying Ukraine's gas bills to Gazprom and EU - Ukraine trade negotiations.

Step 3: Euromaidan.

You guys have done everything possible to piss off the Russians. Not even talking about Ukraine / Georgia NATO membership which is a huge deal for Russia.


Those disputes mainly where manipulations by Moscow, to pull Ukraine into its orbit further and further until it ended up like Belarus. Example - selling gas to ukraine at 30%-40% higher price than to other European Union countries which resulted in these gas disputes to begin with.

Ukraine is a sovereign state, what russian pidor state wants doesn't matter when it comes to direction Ukraine chose to go.

Cronyism, oligarchy and corruption stems from Moscow as a direct tool to influence ex-soviet republics around it, ethically russian population is just a trade-coin to have a scapegoat to blame it on so theres "official reasoning perspective"

But it seems you already made up your mind that installing puppet governments and holding people like Yanukovych or Lukashenko in power is a normal correct thing to do, beating people like cattle when they protest and demand reforms they where promised against the very same oligarchy and corruption you accuse Ukraine of having . Speaks volumes about your lack of understanding of the issues at hand/Eastern European relations and history and of course who you are as a person.

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Those disputes mainly where manipulations by Moscow, to pull Ukraine into its orbit further and further until it ended up like Belarus. Example - selling gas to ukraine at 30%-40% higher price than to other European Union countries which resulted in these gas disputes to begin with.

Ukraine is a sovereign state, what russian pidor state wants doesn't matter when it comes to direction Ukraine chose to go.

Cronyism, oligarchy and corruption stems from Moscow as a direct tool to influence ex-soviet republics around it, ethically russian population is just a trade-coin to have a scapegoat to blame it on so theres "official reasoning perspective"

But it seems you already made up your mind that installing puppet governments and holding people like Yanukovych or Lukashenko in power is a normal correct thing to do, beating people like cattle when they protest and demand reforms they where promised against the very same oligarchy and corruption you accuse Ukraine of having . Speaks volumes about your lack of understanding of the issues at hand/Eastern European relations and history and of course who you are as a person.


I simply beat you with arguments that I can back up with sources that's why you resort to insults, as usual.

I wish the West were sensical and let you deal with this yourselves and lift all sanctions. This shit-show has cost the world enough already. It's batshit insane.
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Sep 4 2022 09:07am
Quote (Djunior @ Sep 4 2022 06:02pm)
I simply beat you with arguments that I can back up with sources that's why you resort to insults, as usual.

I wish the West were sensical and let you deal with this yourselves and lift all sanctions. This shit-show has cost the world enough already. It's batshit insane.


You didn't beat anything but a dead horse, notion you float that Ukraine should be some russian empire province and russia had any legitimate reason to invade ukraine is plain wrong, all you proven is that you are low-intellect individual who argues about things he knows nothing about, thus easily falls prey to russian disinformation he theory crafts his bs reasoning on.

Luckily in the west people who hold power also see the picture as it is, and not how some basement weaboos want it to be. Thus sanctions will stay.
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