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Nov 25 2019 05:42am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2019 10:17pm)
Hollywood obsession with Russia bad predates all of that.

You just conform to that perspective because you uncritically think about the world and honestly just have a very sheltered subjective American experience. To you verifiable history that proves we don’t always have the moral high ground when it comes to geopolitics is a conspiracy theory because we’re always the good guys.


The data is wrong I am right -- void.

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Nov 25 2019 07:55am
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Objective reality is we have a creeping military infrastructure and are continuously building military alliances with countries closer to their border while they are not doing the same.

He doesn't have to work very hard to stroke anti western sentiments when we keep placing THAAD's closer and closer to their border.

Lately i'v been rubbing shoulders with a lot of foreigners from neutral type places like India or parts of Africa. It's really interesting how most of them tend to have a negative view of our policeman role across the world.

But like i said, i wouldn't expect you to have another opinion than your current one considering how you tend to follow the mold of popular opinion on most political ideologies.


They aren't doing the same because aligning with the West is better for countries like Ukraine. If they could expand their sphere of influence, they would. Nobody wants to align with the failing bully that is Russia.

Your anecdotal experiences bore me. People blame America when things go wrong but never credit America when things go right. It's "the grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome.

Since when is a strong, expansive view of America's role in the world popular? Most people our age don't agree with it. The majority of Americans don't agree with it. Trump, Sanders, and Warren don't agree with it.
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Nov 25 2019 08:22am
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 24 2019 09:52pm)
It’s strange how obsessive Americans are about making Russiansthe villains.

Having lived in both spheres it’s astounding how assymetrical feelings and views of one another are. In the US so many action/spy movies & tv shows Russians are the go to villains. It’s not really the same with Russian movies. Of all the ones I’ve seen, the villains are never some scheming Americans.

Whole generations are brainwashed as Russia bad.


Russia and china are both bad tho
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Nov 25 2019 08:55am
Quote (balrog66 @ 25 Nov 2019 11:44)
Haven't seen it mentioned anywhere else yet:

https://apnews.com/583b5e7ecfc84b61b470b5e8e3c4bcab



Big yawn from me. Another soon-to-be corpse enters the race.

Everyone above the age of 70 shouldn't even be considered for President imo.


*Yawn* indeed.

Bloomberg's candidacy summarized: "I'm afraid that Warren or Bernie could actually really win this and raise my taxes."
Bloomberg is the epitome of the "socially liberal, economically moderate/conservative"-type of billionaire-friendly Democrat that I was talking about the other day.
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Nov 25 2019 09:49am
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/andrew-yang-demands-msnbc-apologize-014303826.html

Yang demands apology from racist entity that provides unequal talking time to minority candidates and also denies elections. good luck getting them to admit they did anything wrong :rofl:
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Nov 25 2019 09:57am
Quote (excellence @ Nov 25 2019 09:49am)
https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/andrew-yang-demands-msnbc-apologize-014303826.html

Yang demands apology from racist entity that provides unequal talking time to minority candidates and also denies elections. good luck getting them to admit they did anything wrong :rofl:

They called him John Yang on TV you racist scum, of course he deserved an on-air apology!!!11
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Quote (Black XistenZ @ 25 Nov 2019 15:55)
*Yawn* indeed.

Bloomberg's candidacy summarized: "I'm afraid that Warren or Bernie could actually really win this and raise my taxes."
Bloomberg is the epitome of the "socially liberal, economically moderate/conservative"-type of billionaire-friendly Democrat that I was talking about the other day.


he would have pushed the same tax cuts for corporations and billionaires as trump (probably with the same moronic 'justification', that everyone predicted to fail AGAIN, as it demonstrably did) - and to be fair, the rest of your post basically describes that perfectly.
so just because he picked the 'democrat' label this time around, doesn't mean his economics deserve a 'possibly moderate' tag - not even by american standards.

i've got to admit though, i don't really understand his candidacy. i mean, he can't possibly assume that he has a realistic chance, can he? isn't he basically just undermining the already plenty of democrats that are trying to give establishment policies a more civilised look (buttigieg, klobuchar, biden...) - so where is his niche? what is he hoping to accomplish? he doesn't need to sell a book or make a name for himself, so that rationale is out the window imo. does he count on all of them blowing up, so he will be the last establishment democrat standing, and therefore get the party's support?
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Quote (fender @ 25 Nov 2019 20:11)
he would have pushed the same tax cuts for corporations and billionaires as trump (probably with the same moronic 'justification', that everyone predicted to fail AGAIN, as it demonstrably did) - and to be fair, the rest of your post basically describes that perfectly.
so just because he picked the 'democrat' label this time around, doesn't mean his economics deserve a 'possibly moderate' tag - not even by american standards.

i've got to admit though, i don't really understand his candidacy. i mean, he can't possibly assume that he has a realistic chance, can he? isn't he basically just undermining the already plenty of democrats that are trying to give establishment policies a more civilised look (buttigieg, klobuchar, biden...) - so where is his niche? what is he hoping to accomplish? he doesn't need to sell a book or make a name for himself, so that rationale is out the window imo. does he count on all of them blowing up, so he will be the last establishment democrat standing, and therefore get the party's support?


I also dont understand his candidacy. From a tactical point of view, if he ends up making any difference at all (and that's a big 'if'), it will be at the expense of the other, stronger establishment candidates (Biden, Klobuchar, perhaps Buttigieg), so he's hurting his own cause.

It's probably a case of massively inflated ego and/or being out of touch with reality. He's one of the richest men on the planet and has been a fairly successful mayor of New York City for 11 long years. He probably genuinely believes that he's a great politician and that many voters have been waiting for someone like him. If you've spent most of your life being surrounded by sycophants, being super rich and successful and important, it's probably really easy to develop this type of "savior complex" that many of these billionaires clearly have. (See also: Tom Steyer, Howard Schultz.)
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Nov 25 2019 03:21pm
Quote (Skinned @ Nov 25 2019 06:42am)
The data is wrong I am right -- void.


What data? That most Russians have a negative view of US geopolitics in 2015? No one's arguing against that.


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They aren't doing the same because aligning with the West is better for countries like Ukraine. If they could expand their sphere of influence, they would. Nobody wants to align with the failing bully that is Russia.

Your anecdotal experiences bore me. People blame America when things go wrong but never credit America when things go right. It's "the grass is always greener on the other side" syndrome.

Since when is a strong, expansive view of America's role in the world popular? Most people our age don't agree with it. The majority of Americans don't agree with it. Trump, Sanders, and Warren don't agree with it.


According to whom? Or you speak for Ukrainians now? Because the the ones i'v met have pretty diverse views on which side to choose. Some say align with west some say with Russia, point is the bolded is not objective fact.

You can't go a post without your western centrism bleeding through in every response.

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Nov 25 2019 04:09pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ Nov 25 2019 04:21pm)
What data? That most Russians have a negative view of US geopolitics in 2015? No one's arguing against that.




According to whom? Or you speak for Ukrainians now? Because the the ones i'v met have pretty diverse views on which side to choose. Some say align with west some say with Russia, point is the bolded is not objective fact.

You can't go a post without your western centrism bleeding through in every response.


They've actually had to revolutions to get away from Russia. Historically speaking within my lifetime.

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