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Mar 7 2022 08:15pm
Quote (Lvivz @ 8 Mar 2022 03:12)
It took 15k casualties over the years in Afghanistan for USSR economy to crumble, constant society unrest. And USSR actually had functioning multi-sector economy and at the time good amount of allies.

12 days in and 11,000 russkies have became fertiliser in Ukraine,
2100 Russkies are captive, many are wounded. Most western companies closing up their operations in russia, russian company giants unable to function properly without imported parts that they now have no access to and on top of all this rampant corruption eating away at all parts of this mongoloid silovik system. Russia will default by May, and just wait for the response from russian mothers whose children where told they are going for military exercises yet return home resembling borsch in a pan more than a human being.

Ruble on black market at 210 rubles to 1 dollar (was 78 to 1 pre-invasion), banks closed and dont sell dollars or euro atm, stock trading closed with moscow exchange afraid to open its operations as mass hysteria and sell offs will ensue when it does.

If Nato gives us 100-200 planes we will eradicate russian overhyped pos army. Only functioning vector of their army is long range artillery and bombing random targets for the most part. This aint no Syria where its just chaotic war and rival factions fight one another and Assad and Kurds and ISIS attack one another and nobody knows what the fuck is actually going on. There are millions of Ukrainians ready to take up arms and resist rus-nazi fascists.

And what you seen so far is nothing, all cities being attacked atm are very Russian or close to Russia historically less so since 2014 but still, so locals are being very lenient with russian trash over there. Western Ukraine is completely different story, pure rage flows in blood of western Ukrainians for all the crap we had to put up with from ussr and russia starting from holodomor to 50 years of sovietism, Russians that come here will get 3 times more fierce resistance than what they are currently getting in Kiev Kharkiv etc.
There wont be any of war prisoner crap here, with calls to mommy in russia, tears and ballad about them not knowing they are in Ukraine.
Just molotov cocktails and burning ruskie fascist flesh that will be filmed and sent to their mothers pronto.


good sir the russians did place theire bad ass anti air stations already. thats actualy a no fly zone set up by the russians. .
ppl should stop following that troll. thats just take us into ww3
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Quote (Subwoofer @ 8 Mar 2022 03:12)
It hurt my brain to read further without knowing if you are a non-english speaker is all.


lmao thats racist dude
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Mar 7 2022 08:24pm
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lmao thats racist dude



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lmao thats racist dude


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Mar 7 2022 08:47pm
Quote (Frosch01 @ Mar 8 2022 04:03am)
the rubbish ussr tech you mention is still the most effective conventional assets. i dont want to mean but they already did won the war , they just not stupid enough to run into high armed castles. they just pass it.
if u are believe in the 3 day troll, im very sry. thats pure propaganda from ukraine side.
the convoy aint stuckd. if thats wold be the case they would stack up in another formation . they just w8 in a sieged area with no threats . w8 for the rocket arty to bring terror over the armed civ population.
they gathering control over the infrastucture or mainly did aready.

pure ignorance to think an army of 100.000+ staying in that region for almost a year now. they train operations on a big scale for months. is having supply issues . they did build up that supply chain for almost 12 months if not longer.
russians aint no stupid rambo kids. they did evolve over the years espacily since syria.

why u think the jets should fly 24/7 when the air force did sucessfully won the war at air in the first 24 hours. did destroy most important ground targets in 48hours.

its a war and not your average call of duty game



there is no reason to believe either russia or ukraine when it comes to "infos"


If thats what you call most effective assets than I pity your understanding of modern warfare. Blitzkrieg failed hard, Putin thought he will be in Kiev in a week, some Russian soldiers brought their uniforms with medals for the grand parade.
We are not in 1940s, modern wars are extremely costly - Russia loses 20 billion every day they continue this war. With no economy in place to support such expanses, and then again rampant corruption.
And like I said, its army is massively overhyped by the western military industrial complex to create an illusion of this mammoth russian army, as Putin said few years ago he can be in Berlin in 2 weeks, 2 weeks passed and his army is stuck in Sumy where they began.

The ground targets they hit in western Ukraine (military airports) have already repaired their infrastructure and are functioning again. Russia has already lost 50-70 airplanes, some su-35s that they claimed cannot be shot down by Ukrainian forces.
Its aint no game, its war and Ukraine will unfortunately be losing civilians as barbaric war criminals resort to bombing hospitals and schools, but Russian war plans have already been foiled. They hoped Ukraine will capitulate as we did back in 2014 but now its completely different ball game.

Just yesterday Ukrainian artillery fired on make-shift russian base in occupied Kherson where 30 helicopters where stationed - most of them destroyed, in Odessa Ukraine blasted one of Russian navy ships with heavy casualties on board. Belarus forces are protesting and refusing to follow commands and participate in this war. Many are deserting as we post here.

What you fail to realize is that once these modern toys russia has are destroyed (and it will be very soon) they are left with rusty crap from soviet era, and no economy or industry to replenish their tech. Ukraine will be Russian graveyard in the end.

They got no supply chains, russkie soldiers are stealing food from local stores in towns they occupied. All putin did so far was prove to whole world he is insane nazi criminal and his army is nothing what it was hyped to be.

This post was edited by Lvivz on Mar 7 2022 08:48pm
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Mar 7 2022 09:32pm
Quote (Lvivz @ 8 Mar 2022 03:47)
If thats what you call most effective assets than I pity your understanding of modern warfare. Blitzkrieg failed hard, Putin thought he will be in Kiev in a week, some Russian soldiers brought their uniforms with medals for the grand parade.
We are not in 1940s, modern wars are extremely costly - Russia loses 20 billion every day they continue this war. With no economy in place to support such expanses, and then again rampant corruption.
And like I said, its army is massively overhyped by the western military industrial complex to create an illusion of this mammoth russian army, as Putin said few years ago he can be in Berlin in 2 weeks, 2 weeks passed and his army is stuck in Sumy where they began.

The ground targets they hit in western Ukraine (military airports) have already repaired their infrastructure and are functioning again. Russia has already lost 50-70 airplanes, some su-35s that they claimed cannot be shot down by Ukrainian forces.
Its aint no game, its war and Ukraine will unfortunately be losing civilians as barbaric war criminals resort to bombing hospitals and schools, but Russian war plans have already been foiled. They hoped Ukraine will capitulate as we did back in 2014 but now its completely different ball game.

Just yesterday Ukrainian artillery fired on make-shift russian base in occupied Kherson where 30 helicopters where stationed - most of them destroyed, in Odessa Ukraine blasted one of Russian navy ships with heavy casualties on board. Belarus forces are protesting and refusing to follow commands and participate in this war. Many are deserting as we post here.

What you fail to realize is that once these modern toys russia has are destroyed (and it will be very soon) they are left with rusty crap from soviet era, and no economy or industry to replenish their tech. Ukraine will be Russian graveyard in the end.

They got no supply chains, russkie soldiers are stealing food from local stores in towns they occupied. All putin did so far was prove to whole world he is insane nazi criminal and his army is nothing what it was hyped to be.


"russia ever had the most effective conventional military assets. thats not even a secret. thats why we the west did what . we fight them with high tech assets. which is expensive."

if they are attacking airports (infrastructure) they attack it for a reason .... you have to bind manpower to rebuild it. which u will miss on another side.
they may now be functional again but left with no plane . air defence systems. or a radar station. so that airfield is no longer a harming threat.
numbers of shot down aircrafts does not matter. alsong you have control over the air space. which the russians have. else ukraine wouldnt ask for no fly zones. which the russians already did build up with the s-400 which is known as best air defence system on the market.

dude u dont wanna fight the so called rubbish crappy tanks. because they are functional, for that purpose they was build


dude im so sry to see what that dictator is doing in your country.
we can just pray for ukraine and its brave ppl. we can just stand at ur side with soft power.

This post was edited by Frosch01 on Mar 7 2022 09:33pm
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Quote (Lvivz @ Mar 7 2022 06:47pm)
If thats what you call most effective assets than I pity your understanding of modern warfare. Blitzkrieg failed hard, Putin thought he will be in Kiev in a week, some Russian soldiers brought their uniforms with medals for the grand parade.
We are not in 1940s, modern wars are extremely costly - Russia loses 20 billion every day they continue this war. With no economy in place to support such expanses, and then again rampant corruption.
And like I said, its army is massively overhyped by the western military industrial complex to create an illusion of this mammoth russian army, as Putin said few years ago he can be in Berlin in 2 weeks, 2 weeks passed and his army is stuck in Sumy where they began.

The ground targets they hit in western Ukraine (military airports) have already repaired their infrastructure and are functioning again. Russia has already lost 50-70 airplanes, some su-35s that they claimed cannot be shot down by Ukrainian forces.
Its aint no game, its war and Ukraine will unfortunately be losing civilians as barbaric war criminals resort to bombing hospitals and schools, but Russian war plans have already been foiled. They hoped Ukraine will capitulate as we did back in 2014 but now its completely different ball game.

Just yesterday Ukrainian artillery fired on make-shift russian base in occupied Kherson where 30 helicopters where stationed - most of them destroyed, in Odessa Ukraine blasted one of Russian navy ships with heavy casualties on board. Belarus forces are protesting and refusing to follow commands and participate in this war. Many are deserting as we post here.

What you fail to realize is that once these modern toys russia has are destroyed (and it will be very soon) they are left with rusty crap from soviet era, and no economy or industry to replenish their tech. Ukraine will be Russian graveyard in the end.

They got no supply chains, russkie soldiers are stealing food from local stores in towns they occupied. All putin did so far was prove to whole world he is insane nazi criminal and his army is nothing what it was hyped to be.


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Mar 7 2022 09:57pm
Ukraine is too big to be controlled that fast, Putin will have to pay with his ass to sustain such level of occupation.
So i guess Russians will try to blow up everything as quick as possible, and to get rid of Zelinsky asap.
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Mar 7 2022 10:14pm
Quote (Frosch01 @ Mar 7 2022 09:32pm)
"russia ever had the most effective conventional military assets. thats not even a secret. thats why we the west did what . we fight them with high tech assets. which is expensive."

if they are attacking airports (infrastructure) they attack it for a reason .... you have to bind manpower to rebuild it. which u will miss on another side.
they may now be functional again but left with no plane . air defence systems. or a radar station. so that airfield is no longer a harming threat.
numbers of shot down aircrafts does not matter. alsong you have control over the air space. which the russians have. else ukraine wouldnt ask for no fly zones. which the russians already did build up with the s-400 which is known as best air defence system on the market.

dude u dont wanna fight the so called rubbish crappy tanks. because they are functional, for that purpose they was build


dude im so sry to see what that dictator is doing in your country.
we can just pray for ukraine and its brave ppl. we can just stand at ur side with soft power.


1. ATGM aren't expensive compared to a tank
2. they have plenty of workforce to help. Doesnt require a soldier to fill a hole and pour tarmac
3. they are getting planes from poland
4.they have plenty of air defense left
5. shot down aircraft absolutely matters. Every downed aircraft is another gap in air superiority
6. they want no fly zones because it's hurting civilians more than soldiers
7. ATGM is a hot knife through butter against old school tanks
8. the patriot>s400. PROVEN system vs hype. Proven system wins.
9. Hush already you don't know how ignorant you are.
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Mar 7 2022 10:14pm
Quote (Frosch01 @ Mar 8 2022 05:32am)
"russia ever had the most effective conventional military assets. thats not even a secret. thats why we the west did what . we fight them with high tech assets. which is expensive."

if they are attacking airports (infrastructure) they attack it for a reason .... you have to bind manpower to rebuild it. which u will miss on another side.
they may now be functional again but left with no plane . air defence systems. or a radar station. so that airfield is no longer a harming threat.
numbers of shot down aircrafts does not matter. alsong you have control over the air space. which the russians have. else ukraine wouldnt ask for no fly zones. which the russians already did build up with the s-400 which is known as best air defence system on the market.

dude u dont wanna fight the so called rubbish crappy tanks. because they are functional, for that purpose they was build

putin did forget the most important part in a hot war . supplys


dude im so sry to see what that dictator is doing in your country.
we can just pray for ukraine and its brave ppl. we can just stand at ur side with soft power.


Russia has not established control over Ukrainian air space, 12 days in and it is still contested. Those airports they hit where not really a threat to begin with, except for the one they hit in Vinnytsa 2 days ago. Number of aircraft shot down does matter, Russia currently has no capability to replenish them, so every functioning plane every pilot we take down and kill means that soon planes that will be taking their place will be lower quality and grade, pilots that we have captured from planes that we shot down - are the ones from Syria a.k.a the elites of Russian military aviation, what will come after them are novices without combat experience = easier to shoot down. More accidents and problems for them. Its a difficult situation that cannot be improved by Ukraine at this moment, hopefully we get planes and more anti-aircraft and anti-missile systems, we are also capturing Russian systems as well, many are abandoned in mint condition by desperate and scared russian forces every day.



There is a logistical catastrophe for Russian forces on the ground already and it will only get worse, a mix of extremely low morale, dwindling supplies, terrible maintenance, cheap components.
Tanks are great however once they are out of fuel its over, ground war is not the problem we are actually doing well on the ground - just keep sending javelins and nlaws and we will be fine, and in no way am I saying that this will be smooth. Eastern and Central Ukrainian cities will be ruined but there shall be no capitulation, Ukraine cannot just give up its territory that = sanctions being lifted, and sooner or later fresh invasion from those newly occupied banana quasy republics, Russia won't stop at Crimea, DNR and LNR and neutrality of Ukraine, as soon as Ukraine gives up plans to join NATO and lowers its troop size to 60,000 as Putin wants we will be invaded yet again or turned into Belarus v2.0. If that happens Moldova will be next, and one thing West does not want is occupied Russo-Ukraine on its very borders as Russians will surely find ways to stage provocations to justify attacks on Baltic states (Putin already demanded that NATO scale back to 1998 borders).


Strategy here is to prolong this war, even if it turns into guerilla style warfare. Russia simply does not have the means to occupy Ukraine, nor does it have the economy to integrate Ukraine fully into itself. And once its economy is shattered it won't be long until Russia starts falling apart.

For now we can just sit and watch all this unfold, luckily there are lots of good news like this -
https://i.gyazo.com/e4dc969bc6207fd85a0195e311b1ea3c.png

Yesterday 45-50 helicopters where destroyed on that base, not 30.
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