You're allowed your opinion, and that's your choice. Not really interested in trying to change others minds on the guy, as most people have already made up their mind and are sticking to their story no matter what they're shown.

I also really don't care to read on every single click bait article about Trump, nor do I have the time.
I've looked into several of them in the past and I'm done. It's a waste of time, and just generating revenue for the media.
99% of it is as much of a sham as this impeachment hearing. Just watch the impeachment hearings then watch the news headlines that follow, "BOMBSHELL TESTIMONY". Yet any person that looks at it objectively found no bombshell testimony being displayed.

My opinion is. Trumps not that bad of a guy. No more corrupt than previous politicians. (He does need to stop tweeting or have more supervision over his tweets though). My stance is, the man is a billionaire. He easily could just live out his days doing whatever he wants with no care. I side with the opinion, that the man might be arrogant at times, but that he is trying to help out the nation, even if that means helping America also with the side purpose of boosting his own image.

Regardless, I don't care. If it does good things for the nation, then I'm all for it. I vote for policy, and I've liked some of things he's done so far. Additionally, I admire that the guy doesn't just crumble when thrown any opposition. Had we had a weaker Republican president that would have gave into the rage culture, we would have had infinitely worse results. The man actually speaks his mind, even if it's an unpopular opinion, or may generate some backlash. Which is better than a weak president that speaks solely to please and doesn't actually emphasize an issue.

Can pretty much guarantee I will be voting for the guy during 2020.

As another poster said, there isn't even another option.

This post was edited by GLYC123 on Nov 23 2019 03:40pm

I'm not a Democrat and never said that.

In fact, I was posting on this forum in 2014 in favor of Russia annexing both Crimea and the entire Donbas.

Trump's purpose is helping out his own image, which may or may not come with a side effect of helping the nation. He's a textbook narcissist, which shows up in almost every facet of his life. He HAS to be the smartest person in the room ALL the time, when not being so is not a bad thing, and a person who makes decisions based on that framework cannot, IMO, be trusted to do what's right for the nation when the chips are down.

This post was edited by Surfpunk on Nov 23 2019 03:50pm

You’re delusional if you believe everything that the majorly ultra-liberal media spoonfeeds you.

The way the political system is set up nowadays is beyond terrible. Trump is a clown, but he is still better than Hillary, our only other option in 2016.

The government needs a giant overhaul. We need something similar to what’s happening in Hong Kong right now. It is my personal opinion that we need to throw out the Republican/Democrat system. The “us vs. them” mentality is toxic and very damaging. We would perform vastly better if we got rid of the parties and just work together.

Come back when you have something of substance.

Imagine being such an idiot that you think leftists support Biden or Schiff, both of whom are center right neoliberals in the pockets of giant corporations and billionaire capitalists.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Nov 23 2019 04:38pm

He surely isnt playing 7d chess or being sophisticated. But him getting away with the shady shit he constantly pulls is not just due to the GOP - he already made a habit of getting away with lies and scams and all kinds of bad stuff while he was a real estate tycoon.

The way I see it, he's shrewd and knows very well how to utilize polarization and the legal system to protect his ass. And he knows how to, and when to, use insinuation when directing his underlings to do the dirty work for him, such that he keeps a modicum of doubt and plausible deniability between himself and the criminal actions his stooges commit on his behalf.





I think many conservatives know this and still support Trump for his policies that they agree with, and for his willingness to fight against liberalism, the media and SJWs instead of giving in to their pressure.
To quote Reagan: "He may be a son of a bitch, but he's our son of a bitch."

He's a textbook narcissist. He's the center of attention, the center of almost all news cycles; the whole nation and, to a lesser extent, the whole world revolve around him while he's POTUS. By winning the 2016 race against all odds and being the eye of the storm ever since, he has reached peak affirmation for his narcissism. Same for his rallies in front of thousands of avid supporters who eat up every word of his.

Other narcissists dream of the whole world revolving around them. Trump made it happen in real life.




Well said, and that's more or less my rationale for supporting Trump too. If only he were a more savvy/effective politician. He could have achieved so much more without all the unforced errors and self-inflicted wounds. The thing that turns me off the most is that he hasnt managed to expand public support for "his cause"; and even stoked opposition against it with his ultra-polarizing personality and rhetoric.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Nov 23 2019 04:56pm

sounds like most democratic candidates tho

other than yang and bernie

Thats the secret... There is no candidate that appeals to the left in America, despite there being far more people on the left than the right.