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Aug 24 2022 03:48pm
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 24 2022 04:42pm)
Yeah, I get it. But you're comparing apples and oranges. Dugin is not some pop-culture lawyer... he's a scholar in Russia whose teachings are completely consistent with Putin's aggressive moves against sovereign countries.


Not completely, Dugin is more extreme than Putin. But the distinction here is that Dugin is someone who isn't a politician, isn't a pundit, holds no power or media presence. People talk about getting a time machine to assassinate Hitler in 1939, but nobody talks about getting a time machine to assassinate Karl Marx or Friedrich Nietzsche after they published their works. Nobody can call Dugin a legitimate target for any reason but the views he holds and espouses, and the sort of people who murder folks for what they think are the kind of fascists that make Dugin look reasonable.
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Aug 24 2022 03:52pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 24 2022 05:48pm)
Not completely, Dugin is more extreme than Putin. But the distinction here is that Dugin is someone who isn't a politician, isn't a pundit, holds no power or media presence. People talk about getting a time machine to assassinate Hitler in 1939, but nobody talks about getting a time machine to assassinate Karl Marx or Friedrich Nietzsche after they published their works. Nobody can call Dugin a legitimate target for any reason but the views he holds and espouses, and the sort of people who murder folks for what they think are the kind of fascists that make Dugin look reasonable.


It's kind of easy to imagine people in this world who would assassinate Dugin for his positions. Whether they be inside Russia, or in Ukraine, or elsewhere. You seem to be pretending that everywhere outside the US has the same respect for the 1st amendment that the US does.
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Aug 24 2022 04:00pm
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 24 2022 05:42pm)
Yeah, I get it. But you're comparing apples and oranges. Dugin is not some pop-culture lawyer... he's a scholar in Russia whose teachings are completely consistent with Putin's aggressive moves against sovereign countries.

When someone writes the doctrine justifying a dictator wreaking havoc against a neighbor nation, it's not exactly unheard of for that intellectual to get blown up. And I don't know that it's wrong to do so.


The modern left in a nutshell.
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Aug 24 2022 04:07pm
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The modern left in a nutshell.


We all take your input seriously, the fella who quotes Machiavelli and supported the Iraq war more than anyone who still frequents this forum. Lol.
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Aug 24 2022 04:10pm
Quote (IceMage @ Aug 24 2022 04:52pm)
It's kind of easy to imagine people in this world who would assassinate Dugin for his positions. Whether they be inside Russia, or in Ukraine, or elsewhere. You seem to be pretending that everywhere outside the US has the same respect for the 1st amendment that the US does.


There are people in the world who would assassinate celebrities and politicians because their next door neighbor's dog was possessed by satan and told them to.
Its not hard to see coverage in the western media that's trying to legitimize the murder of Darya Dugin and attempt on Alexander Dugin. What was Joe Biden's comment on it?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-says-condemns-targeting-civilians-when-asked-dugina-attack-2022-08-22/
Pretty weak at best, at least they're shying away from it at the state level, but then we have stuff like this;
https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya-dugina-daughter-of-putin-propagandist-alexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say
I mean, just plain false label, can't really call someone with next to zero media presence or control a propagandist

I think the vast majority of media outlets and the white house's press secretary / team figured that this wasn't something that should be championed as an accomplishment, unlike say killing the head of ISIS / Al Qaeda. So its not like there's a rush to embrace it, they can figure the same thing, its an attempted assassination of a civilian scholar and the killing of his daughter as collateral damage. And if its the Ukrainians, its a black mark against them
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Aug 24 2022 04:21pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 24 2022 06:10pm)
There are people in the world who would assassinate celebrities and politicians because their next door neighbor's dog was possessed by satan and told them to.
Its not hard to see coverage in the western media that's trying to legitimize the murder of Darya Dugin and attempt on Alexander Dugin. What was Joe Biden's comment on it?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-says-condemns-targeting-civilians-when-asked-dugina-attack-2022-08-22/
Pretty weak at best, at least they're shying away from it at the state level, but then we have stuff like this;
https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya-dugina-daughter-of-putin-propagandist-alexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say
I mean, just plain false label, can't really call someone with next to zero media presence or control a propagandist

I think the vast majority of media outlets and the white house's press secretary / team figured that this wasn't something that should be championed as an accomplishment, unlike say killing the head of ISIS / Al Qaeda. So its not like there's a rush to embrace it, they can figure the same thing, its an attempted assassination of a civilian scholar and the killing of his daughter as collateral damage. And if its the Ukrainians, its a black mark against them


I think it should be an accomplishment for the West.
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Aug 24 2022 04:47pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 25 2022 01:10am)
There are people in the world who would assassinate celebrities and politicians because their next door neighbor's dog was possessed by satan and told them to.
Its not hard to see coverage in the western media that's trying to legitimize the murder of Darya Dugin and attempt on Alexander Dugin. What was Joe Biden's comment on it?
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/us-says-condemns-targeting-civilians-when-asked-dugina-attack-2022-08-22/
Pretty weak at best, at least they're shying away from it at the state level, but then we have stuff like this;
https://www.thedailybeast.com/darya-dugina-daughter-of-putin-propagandist-alexander-dugin-killed-in-car-bomb-reports-say
I mean, just plain false label, can't really call someone with next to zero media presence or control a propagandist

I think the vast majority of media outlets and the white house's press secretary / team figured that this wasn't something that should be championed as an accomplishment, unlike say killing the head of ISIS / Al Qaeda. So its not like there's a rush to embrace it, they can figure the same thing, its an attempted assassination of a civilian scholar and the killing of his daughter as collateral damage. And if its the Ukrainians, its a black mark against them


Dang those Ukrainians who have capabilities of assassinating someone 20 km off Putins residence where FSB/Police/Secret Service are doing rounds all around, picking such a valuable target! Some random propagandist most people had no idea even existed instead of actually someone who would justify such an operation :lol:


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Aug 24 2022 04:51pm
Next target (which FSB will expose within 2 hours of it happening and link it to another Ukrainian bimbo on a cooper riding around in a caar with hand-drawn numbers plate that nobody decides to ever stop) - we shall strike Russian minister of archeology.

Those mammoth tusks are prime target.
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Aug 24 2022 04:57pm
Quote (Lvivz @ Aug 24 2022 05:47pm)
Dang those Ukrainians who have capabilities of assassinating someone 20 km off Putins residence where FSB/Police/Secret Service are doing rounds all around, picking such a valuable target! Some random propagandist most people had no idea even existed instead of actually someone who would justify such an operation :lol:


Enter country, rent apartment, watch target, put bomb on target's car, drive to border and escape. Not exactly rocket science.
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Aug 24 2022 05:04pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Aug 25 2022 01:57am)
Enter country, rent apartment, watch target, put bomb on target's car, drive to border and escape. Not exactly rocket science.


Of course, we know those Russians, vodka and balalaika all day and every day, the blonde bimbo assassin on a cooper even lived in same luxury apartment building that Dugins daughter did lol

Driving on some hand-drawn plate - no problem - russian roads are constant gta anyway


What actual KZ numbers look like:



According to FSB border inspection footage release heres even a cat a blonde bimbo brought with her on this supa mission


Couldn't leave Whiskers at home, he was integral part of this assassination mission too

This post was edited by Lvivz on Aug 24 2022 05:05pm
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