An easy way to check for sure is to see whether anyone is being charged with a crime that remotely fits your description. We've already been told by the FBI that they don't expect to charge anyone with conspiracy to do the things you're suggesting. They've spent the better part of the last ~18 months trying to find any evidence whatsoever of a conspiracy to overthrow the US government. It doesn't exist, which is why you'll still find media talking about "5 murdered police officers", even though we know no police officers were actually murdered that day. A ziptie was picked up by someone on capitol grounds who thought they'd be used against protesters. He is not being charged with an attempt to kidnap AOC or Pelosi, nor is anyone else being charged with the same.

I believe in applying the law. It's unfortunate that Democrats believe in prosecuting misdemeanors against their political enemies, which dropping violent felonies when it comes to their friends. It's the worst sort of political corruption, that has done more to destroy faith in American government than anything Trump could have done individually.

no trying to cancel million of votes is far worse than a BLM flag.
sorry

Millions of fraudulent* votes

FTFY

Weaponizing the judicial system through the DOJ/FBI is far more destructive long-term than the effects of one man who had the entire institutional power of the United States arrayed against him. We have sufficient checks and balances (see: Bill Barr) to prevent Trump from cancelling millions of votes via temper tantrum. Meanwhile, the FBI coordinates with Democratic political operatives to selectively investigate their political opponents, while the DOJ drops charges against political allies while it seeks to bring down the hammer on political foes.

Yeah obviously this is a huge problem and indicates massive corruption at every level of the federal government.

Try getting a leftist to admit to it though, lol. "Oh yeah? Well those people that the FBI illegally arrested & spied on were all muh DoMestIc tErRoRiStS aNyWay!"

They'll believe any tripe, any justification that the mass media feeds them.

isnt this what trump did? trump weaponized the DOJ more than any president lmao. and who knows how much foreign help he got with jared kushner running back channel deals and selling national security secrets for financial and other guarentees. you are quite hypocritical in your takes recently in regards to trump. its ok to be wrong, its not ok to continue to try to justify that this was all a big nothing burger.

Lol Trump couldn't get the DOJ to do anything for him even on a good day. Stop lying to yourself

The Trump DoJ under Bill Barr made a conscious decision to avoid political prosecutions and investigations and to let Democrats get away with flagrant crimes that could have been held to account, like Ilhan Omar, as they simultaneously wrapped up the Mueller shitshow and put their house back in order after the abuses of DoJ leadership during the Obama era. It was very much a return to sanity in the DoJ, but one that has more to do with Bill Barr and less to do with Trump, and wasn't happening under Session's spineless leadership. Nor was it some great act of magnanimity, as pursuing the most onerous Democrats would have actually hurt Republicans in the long run, when the most noxious elements of the party are what alienate moderates and help sink them at the polls.

This is an important distinction to make. Obama weaponized the DoJ, first with some lukewarm baby steps during his tenure but then an all out blitz during his lame duck months. Trump put the genie back in the bottle and restored their apolitical function. Biden immediately set loose the genie again upon taking office and has weaponized the DoJ to a far greater extent than Obama did, and now we're descending into totalitarianism.

You're going to have to explain how Bill Barr weaponized the DOJ under Trump. The FBI for its part spent the better part of Trump's term lying to courts and Congress in an effort to continue a baseless investigation. I'm not going to touch on "back channel.... selling national security secrets" because that sounds ridiculous. It would be incredibly serious if that were true, and we need serious evidence to back up serious allegations. In my opinion, the death penalty is appropriate for that sort of betrayal.

January 6th was a riot by outraged Trump supporters. The violence was deplorable, and their emotional state was clearly impacted by Trump's repeated claims of electoral fraud. That's disgraceful, and Trump suffered immensely in the court of public opinion. That's the appropriate venue for that struggle to play out. What we should avoid doing is constructing elaborate myths that are actively contradicted by the available facts. It was not an attempted overthrow of the US government, which we know because no charges to that effect have been filed, and no conspiracy uncovered. Police officers were not murdered by violent protesters. There was no known plot by armed men with zip ties to abduct lawmakers. The White House, for its part, clearly did not anticipate the riot, with Trump himself surprised at one point at the violence as it unfolded.

lol @ the usual extremist trumpers hopped on that post so fast. you idiots are sure obsessed over a 74 yr old orange tinted, mouth breathing, daughter craving, fat fuck who added 8 trillion to the deficit in a period of economic expansion. lmao.

This post was edited by Budgeting on Jun 10 2022 09:00am