I think reputation ebbs and flows. As penishat rightly points out, the FBI has gone through phases of disrepute. They had dark chapters in the red scare, during the civil rights movement, during the hoover shadow government. The FBI has historically been on the sharp edge of administrative abuses during times of racism, corruption and misconduct. Its not new that they've been politically compromised. And when we have those rosy days of relative quiet and an unobtrusive administration prior to the 2016 election, it was largely a product of obfuscation and secrecy- all the same wrongs were still being perpetuated at high levels, they just got swept under the rug. Was all that blathering about the Uranium One investigation being stifled and a whistleblower covered up the product of retroactive yarnspinning by trump cultists? No. It happened, we have the evidence. What you make of it and how damning you consider it is something, but the stuff like FISA abuses, mass surveillance, warrantless wiretapping, the politicization of the FBI: It was going on even when their reputation went up and down. Its only now in the past couple years with the airing of grievances from both sides and the insane amount of leaking that we've really reached a boiling point where the FBI's fuckups and abuses have been laid bare. And that was a predictable outcome of the mismanagement by the top FBI heads and the inter/intra-department wars going on between political factions, when the DoJ and NSA and FBI are all at each others throats and threatening their legal bludgeons against each other.

credibility is a product of both the actions and how limited our knowledge is of them. The Bush/Obama administrations did a fairly good job in keeping their secret abuses secret and vengefully crucifying whistleblowers. With Trump, the floodgates were flung open. And based on the litany of high profile fuckups in recent years, its hard to believe the FBI has always been that dysfunctional in actuality. So I'd say both the reality and perception got worse. Maybe theres an argument as to the circular self-perpetuating cycle of politicization and public skepticism of the FBI causing some of the dysfunction and failed investigations which then fuels more fingerpointing. But the laundry list of failures can't be chalked up to confabulation or selective representation.

comey swung the elections


https://edition.cnn.com/2018/04/16/politics/james-comey-swing-the-election-kelllyanne-conway-heres-the-evidence/index.html


This Conway was fired or. something?

Feds wiretapped Cohen's phones.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/feds-tapped-trump-lawyer-michael-cohen-s-phones-n871011

“Based on all of the data examined here, we would conclude there is at best mixed evidence to suggest that the FBI announcement tipped the scales of the race. Pairing this analysis with the preceding one on NEP data for late deciders, it remains unclear exactly why late-deciding voters broke for Trump in the Upper Midwest”

The title of the article says “Here’s the evidence”, but they provide no actual evidence, only speculation. Then they go on to even admit that there’s no evidence, and say that polling statistics don’t back up their claims. Sensationalist headlines, as usual.

As a side note, their editor needs to be fired. That article was a complete clusterfuck.

CNN late as fuck to the game. Like, 16 months late.

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/bigger-than-watergate-concerns-grow-that-anti-clinton_us_5850bb12e4b0b662c2fddebc

Oops.

herp a derp poop the scoop

Yeah your guys can argue whatever they want we all remind the effect of comey letter to the congress just before the elections.
Reopening the case rofl.... his Mistake.

that and russian interference.. terrible.. and yuuuge

This post was edited by Saucisson6000 on May 3 2018 03:42pm

It wasn't a mistake. It was a deliberate action taken knowing the political consequences, of a man put in a no-win scenario. And he held some responsibility for the circumstances that put him into that bind.
Just like Hillary, Obama, Lynch, Comey, McCabe, etc all share some responsibility, mostly Hillary's, for the circumstances of her legal scandals.

Comey the pseudoleaker and actual leaker was in the position of many whistleblowers. He was the messenger of someone else's wrongs. Hilldog camp wanted to shoot the messenger.

"hilldog camp" ?

Comey acted in a nonpartisan manner, so we cant say that today he's siding with democrats.