If you believe your question was pertinent to the case, then my answer stands.



The cases have been made. There is nothing left but deliberation and verdict. Past that point, it's down to appeals and sentencing, or a retrial if hung jury, unless there is a complete acquittal, in which case the case will be completely finished.

We're past the point where hypothetical questions matter. As of this time, everything I believe about the case is formed around the evidence, testimony, and cross examination in the case itself. And based on the case made, my answer is my answer.

You're not a child, Thor, stop acting like one. If someone answers a question in a way you don't like, either rephrase the question, or accept that other people can have other viewpoints. You don't dictate what others think.



The prosecution would not have allowed it. Steven Crowder tested it. It was fine. It's also been utilized hundreds of times by Minnesota Law Enforcement with no detrimental effects. The only time it ever becomes a problem is when a suspect is overdosed on drugs. Sadly, that's also the time when the prone position is the most necessary to subdue a suspect without the use of a taser or bullet.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 20 2021 12:16am

You think your answer stands because you have a poor understanding of the law, and you refuse to answer because you refuse to interact for fear of correcting that understanding.

You are not going to like this, because I lean right, but crowder's video is absolute BS. The knee was hitting crowder's shoulder blade and not fully contoured on the neck.

You've watched the full george floyd bystander video, you know this InsaneBobb.

I watched both the bystander video AND the shoulder cam video. I saw it from both directions, and the prosecution witnesses testimony in court under cross examination agreed that the knee was primarily across the shoulder, not the neck.

And the Crowder video did it both ways. And we can agree, since you appear to have watched it, that Crowder was definitely uncomfortable. He was also definitely able to breath, neck OR shoulder, he was able to shift and move, just exactly as Floyd was, and he was able to speak, just as Floyd was.

If you drop all your apples in the bystander video, and simply discount all evidence to the contrary based on that limited viewpoint of what was over a 20 minute altercation, then I don't know what to tell you. *shrug*



Grow up.

This post was edited by InsaneBobb on Apr 20 2021 12:36am

Answer the question honestly, instead of dodging.

Is there a timestamp to this? The video I saw from him, the knee was on his shoulder blade (upper), not fully on the neck

I did. I told you I would not answer any hypotheticals. Every answer you will receive from me is based on the evidence, testimony, and cross examination of the case. That's all that's relevant. And there is reasonable doubt that any action by Chauvin had any impact on Floyd's death at all. Once again, if you dislike the answer, that's your problem. Part of growing up is learning that not everyone agrees with you.



Um... He STARTED with his knee on Crowder's neck. Did you watch it, or not? But since you asked: Start at 1:17:00.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qHLXbVDnkc

Not going to bother trying to embed, because that particular video has been flagged as "offensive" due 100% to that demonstration.

Thanks for the timestamp!






Come on man, you know this isn't the same position. The knee is mostly on crowder's upper back.

And part of it is also realizing people often aren't willing to approach the topic honestly, such as yourself and probably every topic tonight. And most topics most nights if im being honest.

Its telling that you rely on Crowder while also arguing you are only basing it on the evidence presented. It shows beyond any shadow of a doubt you're being dishonest since you literally contradict yourself in the same post.

Also Chauvin foot is barely touching the floor as opposed to the other video - poor reenactment.