That was a serious malfunction. It locked onto the nearest radar source and tried to home in. That would ordinarily be prevented by a failsafe.

I brought up Kramatorsk as a location for the use of Tochka-U missiles.

Medvedev was considered to be Putin-light in the past.
Now he became more radical than Putin.
Im not sure which Medvedev is real, could be acting all the time, lol.

Impossible to know 100% who shot that tochka-U. Most likely ukraine, The trajectory etc but I highly doubt it was on purpose though, it was 100% malfunction regardless of who possibly shot it. This is one of those instances I wouldn't hold ukraine at all responsible for the damage. These things happen in war.. Russians/dpr have barely used any tockas. There has only been like 2 picture/video evidence of them even being transported by russians, and these are big you can't really sneak them in. For example we have hundreds of videos of movement of iskanders or s300, s400 etc

Extra failsafes, and overengineering, and extra quality control, all these things are calculated and expected. It is done 100% deliberately, like i said diminishing returns in production and all that jaz.



Most statements coming out of duma or other russians have been extremely harsher than anything by putin. You are right it could be ploys, and acting but if anyone thinks putins replacement/successor is gonna be more soft is very unlikely. Wishful thinking

This post was edited by ownyaah on Aug 2 2022 11:40am

From Yuri Butusov, well respected ukranian war reporter btw
https://imgur.com/a/DYQxzkV
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FZK_ucWXkAUIk3i?format=png&name=medium

to quote myself from earlier:





This post was edited by ownyaah on Aug 2 2022 12:08pm

You should attack Peski and Avdiivka at once.

Why would he do that huh, could it possibly have something to do with the woke West pressing Ukraine to adopt Western "progressive standards" in order for them to be able to apply for NATO / EU membership?

no, it's a law in ukraine that if a petition gets to a certain number of signings, the president has to judge it.

I am sure this will not go ahead, it's just a bureaucratic formality they need to take care of.

When Medvedev was president, he was considered more liberal than Putin. Civil society, the arts and culture thrived during his presidency - at least by the pitiful standards of Russia. His presidency was generally considered a period of thawing relations, both in Russia and between Russia and the West. Since that time, Medvedev has continuously fallen down the ladder of Russia's leadership, to the point that he occupies a meaningless represenative post without any real power right now.

Therefore, my take on Medvedev's giga-radical rhetoric since the war has started is that he's trying to get in Putin's good graces again and trying to shake off his "softie-image" by overcompensating with endless drivel about nuclear holocaust this, total annihilation that, and so on and on. Medvedev imho is all bark no bite. I'd be far more concerned about a guy like Patrushev.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Aug 2 2022 06:04pm

https://oilprice.com/Energy/Natural-Gas/EU-Gas-Dependence-On-Russia-Falls-By-50.html

Eu moving in the right direction to reduce dependency on the orcs