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Jul 31 2022 10:19am
Quote (ownyaah @ 1 Aug 2022 00:17)
what are u talking about? They massacred a villager of peasants, they gang-raped all the women and then took them and their children out on the fields and executed them enmasse

We are talking about toddlers, babies, how can a 1 year old be VC?

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1: troll
2: sick in the head


Change some of his wording to Ukraine and Russia and put Bucha into context.
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Jul 31 2022 10:20am
Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 31 2022 06:19pm)
Change some of his wording to Ukraine and Russia and put Bucha into context.


Bucha is not comparable, there were no dead babies, toddlers in Bucha and no evidence/accusations of Gang-rape or any rape really. One Ukrainian official made up some stories and was then fired and dishonored by the Ukrainian parliament not long after for making things up.

Also there is very little photgraphic/video evidence of Bucha in comparison.

Like i said for the village massacre there is picture evidence before the rape, after the rape, before the executions, after the executions. Very step-by-step.

This post was edited by ownyaah on Jul 31 2022 10:23am
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The only reason I have nothing against bandera is because they killed 100.000 polish villagers.

Nothing is more funny than Polish ukr sympathisers. Have some respect for yourself.. If i was Polish i would've hated anything Ukrainian at least 100 years.

Communism was a failure of a political system, but at least it wasn't systematic about killing innocent villagers. Incomparable.

Like norlander said communism was bad, but it was not evil.


I didn't say it was bad. We had everything Ironfister described and even more. Yet he's blaming Russians for being Soviet. It wasn't good either. It was a failure state trying to dominate the region with ultra-left edifice (?) in 20's and 30's to ignite global revolution (which is funny) and eventually gone full state controlled pseudosocialism in past 50's.

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Jul 31 2022 10:29am
Quote (ownyaah @ 31 Jul 2022 18:17)
what are u talking about? They massacred a villager of peasants, they gang-raped all the women and then took them and their children out on the fields and executed them enmasse


The Wikipedia says: "Some of the women were gang-raped"
You say: "gang-raped all the women"
See the difference? Or all some? How many exactly?
Imo raping is amongst the worst war crimes.
I find it easier to excuse killing somebody suspicious than raping.

"Village of paesants" who were VC agents according to american Intel info.
Lets not forget about this detail. Such little details are important.

Also the guy who gave the order wasnt convicted, because he died.
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Quote (Ironfister @ Jul 31 2022 06:29pm)
The Wikipedia says: "Some of the women were gang-raped"
You say: "gang-raped all the women"
See the difference? Or all some? How many exactly?
Imo raping is amongst the worst war crimes.
I find it easier to excuse killing somebody suspicious than raping.

"Village of paesants" who were VC agents according to american Intel info.
Lets not forget about this detail. Such little details are important.

Also the guy who gave the order wasnt convicted, because he died.


id post the pictures of the groups of dead babies they executed in the fields, after they raped their mothers, if i wouldn't get warn.

You are completely and utterly insane.

This is why i said you are a selective, deranged moralist. You are sewage

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When they arrived shortly after dawn, the soldiers—led by Lieutenant William Calley—found no Viet Cong. Instead, they came across a quiet village of primarily women, children and older men preparing their breakfast rice.

The villagers were rounded up into groups as the soldiers inspected their huts. Despite finding only a few weapons, Calley ordered his men to begin shooting the villagers.

My Lai Massacre Begins
Some soldiers balked at Calley’s command, but within seconds the massacre had begun, with Calley himself shooting many men, women and children.

Mothers who were shielding their children were shot, and when their children tried to run away, they too were slaughtered. Huts were set on fire, and anyone inside who tried to escape was gunned down.

“I saw them shoot an M79 (grenade launcher) into a group of people who were still alive. But it was mostly done with a machine gun. They were shooting women and children just like anybody else,” Sgt. Michael Bernhardt, a soldier at the scene, later told a reporter.

We met no resistance and I only saw three captured weapons. We had no casualties. It was just like any other Vietnamese village—old papa-sans [men], women and kids. As a matter of fact, I don’t remember seeing one military-age male in the entire place, dead or alive,” Bernhardt said.

In addition tokilling unarmed men, women and children, the soldiers slaughtered countless livestock, raped an unknown number of women, and burned the village to the ground.


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Calley was reported to have dragged dozens of people, including young children, into a ditch before executing them with a machine gun. Not a single shot was fired against the men of Charlie Company at My Lai.


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Jul 31 2022 10:40am
Quote (ownyaah @ 31 Jul 2022 18:09)
The only reason I have nothing against bandera is because he/they killed 100.000 polish villagers.

Nothing is more funny than Polish ukr sympathisers. Have some respect for yourself.. If i was Polish i would've hated anything Ukrainian at least 200 years.

Communism was a failure of a political system, but at least it wasn't systematic about killing innocent villagers. Incomparable.

Like norlander said communism was bad, but it was not evil.


What is your country?
I know there were arguments between Ukrainian and Polish people 80 years ago.
Now its history, we are friends who need to resist Russia together.
Russia hasn't declared war to Poland, so we are not helping Ukraine with our soldiers, but we do symphatise with them, provide some humanitarian help and sell weapons at reasonable prices.

About communism, ever Heard about great hunger that communists made?

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What is your country?
I know there were arguments between Ukrainian and Polish people 100 years ago.
Now its history, we are friends who need to resist Russia together.
Russia hasn't declared war to Poland, so we are not helping Ukraine with our soldiers, but we do symphatise with them, provide some humanitarian help and sell weapons at reasonable prices.

About communism, ever Heard about great hunger that communists made?


yes soviets purposefully masterfully crafted the Holodomor to end the pure Ukrainian Slavic blood line. No Russian, Belarusian etc died from Holodomor only precious Ukrainian blood. The best white blood in the world, even better than Hitler

"arguments between Ukrainian and polish" yes a lot of arguments. Bandera put 100.000 of your civilian villagers and buried them alive like rats and your sucking his dick LOL. Slava Bandera

Not gonna lie but eastern europeans have lost their collective minds ever since the fall of soviet union. Not that i am an apologist of the soviets, it was a failed project. But yeesh you guys looney

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yes soviets purposefully masterfully crafted the Holodomor to end the pure Ukrainian Slavic blood line. No Russian, Belarusian etc died from Holodomor only precious Ukrainian blood. The best white blood in the world, even better than Hitler

"arguments between Ukrainian and polish" yes a lot of arguments. Bandera put 100.000 of your civilian villagers and buried them alive like rats. Slava Bandera

Not gonna lie but eastern europeans have lost their collective minds ever since the fall of soviet union. Not that i am an apologist of the soviets, it was a failed project. But yeesh you guys looney


You didnt tell me your country.
Bandera was either in prison or in exile nearly all the time.
I know the history, Ukrainians should kill Polish citizens, on the other hand we Polish people should have been nicer to Ukrainians and dont try to convert them to Poles.
Both sides fucked up. This is history, now we are friends.

Also please dont joke about millions who died from great hunger.
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Jul 31 2022 10:51am
Quote (Ironfister @ Jul 31 2022 06:50pm)
You didnt tell me your country.
Bandera was either in prison or in exile nearly all the time.
I know the history, Ukrainians should kill Polish citizens, on the other hand we Polish people should have been nicer to Ukrainians and dont try to convert them to Poles.
Both sides fucked up. This is history, now we are friends.

Also please dont joke about millions who died from great hunger.


Great hunger was because soviet union as a project was insufficient and a failure. It wasn't purposeful, there was nobody going around thinking how they can kill random people. There was no evil plan or anything silly like that.

A lot of russians also died in the great hunger so why not joke about it? Isn't it a good thing russians died? Are you a russian apologist? Most deaths in ww2 was also russians, so hitler was a good guy really

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