Quote (Norlander @ Jul 31 2022 04:53pm)

Welcome to the club then. Now we are three.

Quote (Ironfister @ 31 Jul 2022 22:46)

Americans killed millions people in Africa/Middle East?
WTF are you saying BS. America brings freedom. Look at Afghanistan, after American left, Taliban militia took over the country and introduced harsh laws, especially hard for women.
Its Russia that kills people everywhere in the world.
Anyway this is true, that a conflict in Europe means more for Europeans than a conflict in some far away country, that we cant even place on the map.
We didnt have such a fullscale war here since 1945?
Russia has kidnapped more than 1 million Ukrainians into savage Russia areas. Very often very cold areas, also very poor, these are very difficult conditions to live in and we can expect most of Ukrainians there die sooner or later. Not to mention they wont be able to return home, until there will be a government change in Russia.
Another ones are starving and live in terrible conditions inside Ukraine, Ukrainian men are forced into Russian army.
Ukrainians under Russian occupation can afford their food only thanks to the Ukrainian government, that still send their people money in pensions, even if their location is under Russian occupation.
Yes I do really believe Russians killed directly or undirectly like 1 million Ukrainians already. This year.
So 1 million kidnapped, one million killed, makes 2million already.
And the war continues.
Also we know, that Russians target ukrainian elites: teachers, politicians, activists, Ukrainian patriots. They basically want Ukraine erased and convert leftovers to Russians.

Quote (ownyaah @ 31 Jul 2022 17:55)

Out of curiosity who do you think bombed the azov POWs?

My understanding is that most likely it was ukraine, but i think there is a smaller possibility it was DPR and even smaller so russian.

Quote (Norlander @ Jul 31 2022 05:05pm)

My main thought it was Russia. But Ukraine was bombing Olenivka for about 5 weeks in succession and then they've got high-precision HIMARS, combine this with the fact that overseers don't have to sleep in the same barrack with prisoners and voila. However, I wouldn't bomb just one barrack. Its fifty-fifty.

Quote (ownyaah @ 31 Jul 2022 18:06)

Do we know how many prisoners were kept at the place? What if it was hundreds and the rocket only hit a small portion of them? I've tried searching for how many were being kept there but i can't find it

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 31 2022 05:02pm)

hahaha.

Below is something that is so atrocious and being found out that they have to investigate lol...Freedom...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Lai_massacre

Quote (ownyaah @ 31 Jul 2022 23:10)

Three years of house arrest by President Richard Nixon haha, what a price he had to pay

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ Jul 31 2022 05:15pm)

yup......
Look if you look back at the comments ironfister makes you will really scratch your head.

Put it this way, might be a bad analogy.

If he was a Muslim in middle east. He will be the first to suicide bomb because he knows that and believes that if he does that he will receive 72 virgins.

Quote (ownyaah @ 31 Jul 2022 23:17)

Honestly the amount of massacres committed that we don't even know about is probably ridiculous before phones+internet.

Also systematic indirect deaths can't even be counted. If you reduce for example the health-care in a country just that alone over a period of time with increased mortality means millions of dead.. etc That is what happened in iraq, so when people talk about a few hundred thousand of deaths it is complete fiction, number is deep in the millions..

Quote (Hamsterbaby @ 31 Jul 2022 17:02)

hahaha.

Below is something that is so atrocious and being found out that they have to investigate lol...Freedom...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%E1%BB%B9_Lai_massacre