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Jul 29 2022 02:04am
75 dead, 150 wounded.
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I thought about it for a bit, its impossible to know who bombed it but id say most likely Ukrainians. They would want to discourage surrender, and make it look like the Russians killed them, aka Russians kill POWs.. I dont really see a reason why Russians would kill them, super counterproductive.

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I thought about it for a bit, its impossible to know who bombed it but id say most likely Ukrainians. They would want to discourage surrender, and make it look like the Russians killed them, aka Russians kill POWs.. I dont really see a reason why Russians would kill them, super counterproductive.


Russians wouldn't, DPR militia would. They wanted to execute nazies but Russians are exchanging them. Get a HEF missile, "make" it detonate. Watch the nazies burn. Report it was an enemy strike. Win-win for DPR.
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Russians wouldn't, DPR militia would. They wanted to execute nazies but Russians are exchanging them. Get a HEF missile, "make" it detonate. Watch the nazies burn. Report it was an enemy strike. Win-win for DPR.


could be, but then it is a small group of DPR and not main contingent making the decision. Killing POW's during war time generally is counterproductive, probably do it after the war is over(if you are gonna do it).

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Ukraine bombed Elenovka, DPR. The place is known for it's prison for Azov neo-nazies. At least 40 prisoners dead. Ukrainian TV remains silent.


Get off the obezrevatel telegram group, your brain is fried.

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Russians wouldn't, DPR militia would. They wanted to execute nazies but Russians are exchanging them. Get a HEF missile, "make" it detonate. Watch the nazies burn. Report it was an enemy strike. Win-win for DPR.


russian swine castrating pows on camera, vatnik
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russian swine castrating pows on camera, vatnik


its not that straight forward and simple, gut feeling tells me Ukraine did the strike to make Russians look bad, and discourage future surrenders. But it can just as easily have been a DPR strike, who did it in anger. But also Russians to create strife within Ukrainian army. It is very convoluted.. impossible to know

Being overly confident in this scenario is just someone who is more open to propaganda.


also castration video isn't important, it is same as the one where uks executed 4 russians, these are isolated and insignificant non-systematic war crimes.. they dont really matter/they are impossible to avoid

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its not that straight forward and simple, gut feeling tells me Ukraine did the strike to make Russians look bad, and discourage future surrenders. But it can just as easily have been a DPR strike, who did it in anger. But also Russians to create strife within Ukrainian army. It is very convoluted.. impossible to know

Being overly confident in this scenario is just someone who is more open to propaganda.


also castration video isn't important, it is same as the one where uks executed 4 russians, these are isolated and insignificant non-systematic war crimes.. they dont really matter/they are impossible to avoid


Its not straight forward and simple, yet vatniks know exactly what happened ofc.
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So about the bombings, and why russian propaganda version is as always fake bs

1) On the video roof isn't even caved in as it would be if HIMARS hit it

2) Most of the building complex is in tact

3) The burns on the bodies indicate that it was most likely RPO-A Shmel that hit it, there where no strikes just a series of low-key explosions.

4) HIMARS would rip those beds to shreds (unlike how they are on the russian propaganda video)


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Quote (Lvivz @ Jul 29 2022 02:55pm)
So about the bombings, and why russian propaganda version is as always fake bs

1) On the video roof isn't even caved in as it would be if HIMARS hit it

2) Most of the building complex is in tact

3) The burns on the bodies indicate that it was most likely RPO-A Shmel that hit it, there where no strikes just a series of low-key explosions.

4) HIMARS would rip those beds to shreds (unlike how they are on the russian propaganda video)


1: Why would the roof cave if it was a himars? You realise himars are relatively small rockets?
2: Most of the complex would be intact if an himars would be used.
Even if it was a larger missile like a tochka-u, kalibr or iskander wouldve both have access to have those systems (ukraine tochka, russia all 3)..
3: Your answer doesn't really make sense, the bodies were charred which tells us it was explosive, which could be anything really. A single RPO-A shmel wouldn't be able to kill 50+ and destroy such a large portion of the building, that is completely fictional
4: what? Shrapnel etc, the beds look pretty shredded from what i can tell..?

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