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Jul 27 2022 12:43pm
Quote (Santara @ Jul 27 2022 12:39pm)
What a steaming pile of shit.

Murder apologist huylo.


You're the one covering for NeoNazi murderer scum, retard. God damn how did you end up as stupid as you are? It's genuinely perplexing. These scumbags have been murdering raping and torturing their own nation's citizens since 2014 and you're just like, oh yeah it's all good who cares, MUH RUSSIA. So fucking pathetic
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Jul 27 2022 01:08pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jul 27 2022 01:43pm)
You're the one covering for NeoNazi murderer scum, retard. God damn how did you end up as stupid as you are? It's genuinely perplexing. These scumbags have been murdering raping and torturing their own nation's citizens since 2014 and you're just like, oh yeah it's all good who cares, MUH RUSSIA. So fucking pathetic


I'm covering for the nation of Ukraine, which has every right to defend itself from being murdered by your boss, Putin. You're literally being an apologist for killing even more people than were being killed before, all in a fight that was instigated by your dear leader in the first place. Pathetic indeed, huylo.
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Jul 27 2022 01:26pm
I'm worried NATO (and the rest of the world) is going to let Ukraine crumble, albeit somewhat unwillingly. NATO partners are so scared of a proxy war or WW3 with Russia that they don't want to be directly involved. Sanctions and weapon shipments will not be enough. Ukraine doesn't have a big enough army.

It appears as if NATO doesn't think Ukraine is worth fighting for. There is not a single NATO boot in Ukraine.
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Jul 27 2022 01:41pm
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I'm worried NATO (and the rest of the world) is going to let Ukraine crumble, albeit somewhat unwillingly. NATO partners are so scared of a proxy war or WW3 with Russia that they don't want to be directly involved. Sanctions and weapon shipments will not be enough. Ukraine doesn't have a big enough army.

It appears as if NATO doesn't think Ukraine is worth fighting for. There is not a single NATO boot in Ukraine.


Which makes a lot of sense. We don't have any contractual obligation to defend Ukraine, and the fate of Ukraine is not a core interest.
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Jul 27 2022 01:55pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jul 27 2022 02:43pm)
You're the one covering for NeoNazi murderer scum, retard. God damn how did you end up as stupid as you are? It's genuinely perplexing. These scumbags have been murdering raping and torturing their own nation's citizens since 2014 and you're just like, oh yeah it's all good who cares, MUH RUSSIA. So fucking pathetic


Tbh the world will be an ever so slightly better place if your heart stopped beating
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Jul 27 2022 02:20pm
Quote (bogie160 @ Jul 27 2022 12:41pm)
Which makes a lot of sense. We don't have any contractual obligation to defend Ukraine, and the fate of Ukraine is not a core interest.


I believe the fate of Ukraine is a core interest for some European nations in NATO. Sweden and Finland applying to join NATO in light of the invasion of Ukraine is also evidence of core interest in the matter in the region.

I understand NATO article 5 and Ukraine is not part of NATO. But that is not an excuse to ignore moral and ethical obligations. A contractual obligation is not needed to go to war.

This post was edited by NatureNames on Jul 27 2022 02:27pm
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Jul 27 2022 02:55pm
Quote (Santara @ Jul 27 2022 01:08pm)
I'm covering for the nation of Ukraine, which has every right to defend itself from being murdered by your boss, Putin. You're literally being an apologist for killing even more people than were being killed before, all in a fight that was instigated by your dear leader in the first place. Pathetic indeed, huylo.


I think you missed the part where some 50% of Ukraine's population is just fine with joining Russia thanks to the barbaric treatment they've received at the hands of the Nazi's. Of course, those people don't matter to you since you have such a one-sided take.
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Jul 27 2022 02:57pm
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 27 2022 01:55pm)
Tbh the world will be an ever so slightly better place if your heart stopped beating


You wish. Ukraine will cease to even exist as a state long before I die. Their entire country is getting permanently wiped off the map lol
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Jul 27 2022 03:00pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jul 27 2022 03:55pm)
I think you missed the part where some 50% of Ukraine's population is just fine with joining Russia thanks to the barbaric treatment they've received at the hands of the Nazi's. Of course, those people don't matter to you since you have such a one-sided take.


Don't pretend, we know you don't think. You say what you're told to say. Pull more numbers from your ass. Smells like shit already, so why stop now?

Shut the fuck up about Nazis, you fucking Nazi lover.

This post was edited by Santara on Jul 27 2022 03:03pm
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Jul 27 2022 03:03pm
Quote (NatureNames @ Jul 27 2022 01:26pm)
I'm worried NATO (and the rest of the world) is going to let Ukraine crumble, albeit somewhat unwillingly. NATO partners are so scared of a proxy war or WW3 with Russia that they don't want to be directly involved. Sanctions and weapon shipments will not be enough. Ukraine doesn't have a big enough army.

It appears as if NATO doesn't think Ukraine is worth fighting for. There is not a single NATO boot in Ukraine.


They aren't worth fighting for. And there are NATO boots in Ukraine, but they're undercover and staying out of sight, mostly helping with artillery spotting and the like. When they die, they are written off as a mercenary so as not to escalate tensions.

Can you imagine going to Ukraine to die on the behalf of an openly fascist regime while claiming to hail from a "western democracy"? LMFAO... oh, the hypocrisy is rich. They're getting what they deserve, that's for sure!

Oh and by the way, FUCK NATO, they're the ones who should be dissolved. They are a threat to world peace, war criminals and pawns for evil at the same time. LET NATO BURN!
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