The Atlantic dared to write an actual piece of political commentary that isn't steeped in DNC recency propaganda;
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2019/11/how-vital-us-military-aid-ukraine/602407/pretty good read. Uri lays out how this orthodox dogmatic view that we
must support Ukraine at every turn is completely at odd with our historical policies going back as early as just a few years ago when Obama was president and he was lukewarm on supporting Ukraine, which is part of why he never provided arms to them in the first place;
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But for a policy that’s purportedly a pillar of the decades-old international order, military aid to Ukraine is pretty new. The U.S. government has provided more than $1.6 billion in security assistance to Ukraine since 2014, when Russia intervened militarily in eastern Ukraine and illegally annexed the Ukrainian territory of Crimea following an uprising that overthrew the country’s pro-Moscow president.
Barack Obama suggested that defending Ukraine against Russia wasn’t a core U.S. national-security concern—and that even if the United States did have interests in Ukraine, Russia had more, meaning that Moscow would always be willing to do more than Washington to keep Ukraine within its sphere of influence. As Obama told The Atlantic’s editor in chief, Jeffrey Goldberg, at the end of his presidency, “The fact is that Ukraine, which is a non-NATO country, is going to be vulnerable to military domination by Russia no matter what we do.”
Not a single politician I've seen is actually asking the question that should be asked: Whether the US interventionalism in Euromaidan Ukraine is actually in our interest. Or Ukraines interests. Or the world's interest. Its nothing short of American imperialism that liberals pretended to decry while Bush was president, then magically turned around and are now hyperjingoistically screaming about traitors and treason when anyone so much as questions their shadow war of aggression. Its not like Trump is some dove or anti-EU crusader, even calling him a skeptic seems pretty far past the mark when he's willing to go further than Obama to support Ukraine. But we've got this parade of bureaucrats and career officials out of washington swearing that our intervention in Ukraine is unquestionably the right thing to do and anyone questioning it is a Russian asset. Its the modern day cry of "Deus Vult"
and mind, its not like The Atlantic is even coming remotely close to deconstructing the neocon/neoliberal narrative. They still take it 100% at face value that the US-backed coup was legitimate and the Crimean secession vote was illegitimate, that US is doing nothing wrong and Putin is waging a war of aggression. There's not even a hint of moral relativism, they don't even get to questioning what's in the interests of the Ukrainian people- they just at least take a glance sideways past the blinders and admit that we weren't always at war with Eastasia when Obama was president. Baby steps, I guess.
This post was edited by Goomshill on Nov 23 2019 12:29am