Russia is a small economy, average population country. They cant keep the war forever, they are not Usa, not China, half of past Ussr, or even less.
Sanctions are planned to be growing over time. one year war is my estimate, but I could be wrong and it could be sooner or later, as we dont know exact situation in Russia.
They dont really have as much long range rockets to destroy UA cities, unless they come close to them and fire artillery.

This post was edited by Ironfister on Jul 23 2022 01:37am

Epitome of irony.

They are literally just making shit up about the "totally surrounded Russians" and you just believe it without even thinking. Like this is some baghdad bob zero-IQ propaganda and you fall for it everytime. Really speaks to your level of gullibility

Russia isn't growing stronger through this war, they're rapidly exhausting their military capacities, both in terms of equipment and troops. Furthermore, logistics have always been the Russian/Soviet achilles heel, which was confirmed yet again in this current war. Simply put, Russia wouldn't even have the military strength to invade Poland in a straight 1on1, even if no additional American troops were deployed to their defense.

If Russia had the power to just steamroll Ukraine, they would have done so months ago. Their advances at a glacial pace, their terror campaign against civilians and foreign countries (blocking grain exports, weaponizing natural gas exports, etc.) are all signs of Russian weakness, not strength.

So no, the way I see it, Russia is not this gigantic menace that threatens to waltz all over Europe in a few years if we don't stop them now. In particular, considering its historical and symbolic significance for Russia, it would be foolish to think that they would ever give up Crimea. Cherson, Mariupol, the Donbass - maybe the Russians could be expelled from these places. But I'm fairly certain that Crimea would be a red line for Russia, they would imho go to nuclear war to defend it.

Do you think we should allow Poland and the Baltics to have nuclear weapons programs of their own? I strongly believe that Japan and South Korea should have nuclear weapons programs as a deterrent against threats.

You gargle propaganda like it's cum. You have no business talking about anyone else believing propaganda.

This is a Soviet T34 WWII era tank. Note the burned out car in the background. They are pulling out all the stops trying to keep some momentum, and they are losing:

https://twitter.com/Tendar/status/1546429735701544960

Classic roadblock. No exhaust, no sound. Dead one.

Generally speaking, I tend to err on the side of the opponents of nuclear proliferation. The fewer countries have nukes, the better. But yes, it would definitely make sense to include Poland, the Baltics and Japan in "nuclear sharing programs" where US nukes are stored in US bases on their territory and deployed by their own jets if they get the green light from the Pentagon. Germany, Turkey, the Netherlands and Italy take part in nuclear sharing, SK and JP do not - which imho is a mistake.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_sharing
Orange = nuclear sharing



I wouldn't be 1000% against giving Poland and the Baltics nukes of their own, but the Baltics are a bit small and unstable. Estonia, for instance, has ~40% ethnic Russians; Poland's current leadership is not exactly trustworthy and the country is excessively hawkish on all things Russia. Nuclear sharing makes a ton more sense in their case.

This post was edited by Black XistenZ on Jul 23 2022 05:27pm

1. Russia has the power to steamroll Ukraine, the reason they are not is because they have not declared war so they are using a very tiny army compared to what they could potentially use.
2. Russia is fully aware they cannot defeat NATO in a conventional war. That's why they are loudly rattling their nuclear sabres. In a hypothetical situation where they DID invade Europe, it wouldn't look like WW2. It would be something like Putin issuing an ultimatum like "We want to unite Kaliningrad with the rest of Russia. It is our right and we will march our troops in to acquire land to make this a reality. NATO must lay down its arms and not impede our mission. If NATO fires ONE BULLET to try to stop us, we will nuke New York City, Los Angeles, Paris and London. We are willing to die for our cause."

This post was edited by Kuggergug on Jul 23 2022 08:06pm