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Oct 14 2020 11:11am
Quote (fender @ Oct 14 2020 11:23am)
it's amazing how easily people are fooled by someone who calmly dodges every relevant question, hides their record and actual convictions, and doesn't scream like a madman when challenged. is it american shallowness, or is it the damage that the likes of trump and kavanaugh did in the last couple of years?

funny how the same people who shouted 'drain the swamp' when their emperor told them to, are now protecting that swamp because the cult leader wants it. it's almost like they don't act on principle or conviction, and just follow whatever their 'team' does, lol. if you love a christian fundamentalist oligarchy, she's certainly your gal...


I do prefer a morally decent citizenry
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Oct 14 2020 11:12am
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I do prefer a morally decent citizenry


Dogma =/= morality
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Dogma =/= morality


Sorry, you just refuse to understand. You're too busy making excuses
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Oct 14 2020 11:16am
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Sorry, you just refuse to understand. You're too busy making excuses


Guns & religion and all that.
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Oct 14 2020 11:22am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ 14 Oct 2020 18:59)
It's simply a lie that she is a a consistent pro-corporate judge.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-conservative-is-amy-coney-barrett/


https://i.imgur.com/i4O01Pn.jpg



So no, ACB is not anti-worker or pro-corporate, she is against the leftward-lurching and ever-expanding interpretaion of civil rights by liberals.


you seem to severely struggle with either reading comprehension or basic logic, but being closer to the middle (which already IS well right of the american people when it comes to corporatism and lobbyism) of the court does NOT make her pro-worker, you desperate hack. just because you didn't highlight the "in line with other conservative judges" part, doesn't mean it can be ignored. just because she might not have the most extreme position does NOT mean she's not a guardian of america's corporatist oligarchy. you'd have to strawman my argument beyond recognition in order to consider your post a valid rebuttal.

i mean, i don't expect much from you, neither in terms of intellect nor in terms of honesty, but when you're performing your little act of TRYING to appear as if you were arguing based on facts, you shouldn't be making such easily refutable claims, lol. it's also hilarious how you describe american law as leftward-lurching and ever-expanding when in reality in the last couple of decades protections for women were de facto repealed in large parts of the country, and the corporate takeover of lawmaking has only been fortified by the conservative majority in the court.

the hoops you people are willing to jump through in order to deny the obvious... amazing. even more impressive coming from a european like yourself, who enjoys a whole lot of protections against corporate exploitation than americans. yet for some (cultist) reason you are shilling for american corporatism here.
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Oct 14 2020 11:27am
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i mean, just ask him for a pro-corporation decision she made then watch him squirm.

he will cite the reichstag fire decree or something like that
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Oct 14 2020 11:28am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Oct 14 2020 09:59am)
It's simply a lie that she is a a consistent pro-corporate judge.

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/how-conservative-is-amy-coney-barrett/


https://i.imgur.com/i4O01Pn.jpg



So no, ACB is not anti-worker or pro-corporate, she is against the leftward-lurching and ever-expanding interpretaion of civil rights by liberals. And this is exactly why she triggers liberals so much - she would be a reliable roadblock for their attempts at legislating from the benches.


Thanks for the analysis. I'm not particularly concerned about this appointee and she'll make a fine judge. It will be interesting to see how the Democrats react. I suppose it depends on how many Senate seats they take. If folks like Bullock win? I have to imagine the GOP is in for a historical ass pounding.
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Oct 14 2020 11:28am
Quote (fender @ 14 Oct 2020 19:22)
you seem to severely struggle with either reading comprehension or basic logic, but being closer to the middle (which already IS well right of the american people when it comes to corporatism and lobbyism) of the court does NOT make her pro-worker, you desperate hack. just because you didn't highlight the "in line with other conservative judges" part, doesn't mean it can be ignored. just because she might not have the most extreme position does NOT mean she's not a guardian of america's corporatist oligarchy. you'd have to strawman my argument beyond recognition in order to consider your post a valid rebuttal.

i mean, i don't expect much from you, neither in terms of intellect nor in terms of honesty, but when you're performing your little act of TRYING to appear as if you were arguing based on facts, you shouldn't be making such easily refutable claims, lol. it's also hilarious how you describe american law as leftward-lurching and ever-expanding when in reality in the last couple of decades protections for women were de facto repealed in large parts of the country, and the corporate takeover of lawmaking has only been fortified by the conservative majority in the court.

the hoops you people are willing to jump through in order to deny the obvious... amazing. even more impressive coming from a european like yourself, who enjoys a whole lot of protections against corporate exploitation than americans. yet for some (cultist) reason you are shilling for american corporatism here.


Bla bla bla.

I did not say that she was pro-worker, I disputed your claim that she was anti-worker. Ranking toward the middle of the court on labor and employment discrimination cases does indeed prove that she is not anti-worker.
But I'm not surprised to see you struggle with the idea that there exists a middle ground between being pro-X and anti-X. Right in line with your black-and-white, good-and-evil worldview.
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Oct 14 2020 11:33am
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Bla bla bla.

I did not say that she was pro-worker, I disputed your claim that she was anti-worker. Ranking toward the middle of the court on labor and employment discrimination cases does indeed prove that she is not anti-worker.
But I'm not surprised to see you struggle with the idea that there exists a middle ground between being pro-X and anti-X. Right in line with your black-and-white, good-and-evil worldview.


If you are to the right of Bernie Sanders, you are a corporate stooge according to him. I think many foreign people fail to calibrate their views to the country in discussion.
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Oct 14 2020 11:36am
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