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Quote (inkanddagger @ Mar 18 2019 03:49pm)
NBC, CNN, CBS etc all push a center right agenda. They all shit on the left consistently. Just look at how they are pushing center-right Republican with a D next to his name Beto right now. It's disgusting.


Economically? Maybe, but we all know the mainstream is irredeemably left on all major social and cultural issues.
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NBC, CNN, CBS etc all push a center right agenda. They all shit on the left consistently. Just look at how they are pushing center-right Republican with a D next to his name Beto right now. It's disgusting.


Beto is center right? The guy is a borderline socialist who actively supports the GND, and he's center right?

Wow, I was joking before with the "to Stalin" comment. Now I'm actually serious. WTF are you on about, bro?
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Economically? Maybe, but we all know the mainstream is irredeemably left on all major social and cultural issues.


American society is left on cultural issues. Sure, there are regressives who want to ban gay marriage, segregate schools, and codify misogyny via policy, but they are a minority. Close to 70% support gay marriage, for example. 60% agree abortion should be legal and close to 80% of non-religious affiliated people say it should be legal.

So they're just representing society in general because it makes marketing sense.

The real war is the class war.
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Beto is center right? The guy is a borderline socialist who actively supports the GND, and he's center right?

Wow, I was joking before with the "to Stalin" comment. Now I'm actually serious. WTF are you on about, bro?


ink unironically is a trotskyist. in case you arent aware, trotskyism, named after Leo Trotzsky, was a flavor of communism that opposed stalin from the left within the communist soviet union. well, until stalin had them liquidated.

just for perspective on how extremely far to the left ink actually is....
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Beto is center right? The guy is a borderline socialist who actively supports the GND, and he's center right?

Wow, I was joking before with the "to Stalin" comment. Now I'm actually serious. WTF are you on about, bro?


The fuck are you talking about? Beto voted with Republicans almost a third of the time. No matter what lies he's spewing to fundraise right now, he's a corporate warmongering pro police state piece of shit.

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/O000170/votes-against-party/113

Among other things, Beto supports dismantling the VA, supports the thin blue line and making attacks on police officers (usually trumped up bullshit charges) a federal crime, he voted for the massive expansion of the military contractor slush fund budget, opposes any attempt to impeach Trump, wants to eliminate the Medicare oversight board that keeps costs contained for seniors, supports accelerated death penalties and dramatically changing the appeals process so more people can be executed without full appeal... the list is just too long and too depressing.

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ink unironically is a trotskyist. in case you arent aware, trotskyism, named after Leo Trotzsky, was a flavor of communism that opposed stalin from the left within the communist soviet union. well, until stalin had them liquidated.

just for perspective on how extremely far to the left ink actually is....


I'm not a Trotskyist. He is also to the right of me. I am philosophically more related to Proudhon, Bakunin, Luxemburg, Goldman, Tolstoy, and other left libertarians.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Mar 18 2019 03:06pm
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The fuck are you talking about? Beto voted with Republicans almost a third of the time. No matter what lies he's spewing to fundraise right now, he's a corporate warmongering pro police state piece of shit.


so he voted with Democrats ~70%+ of the time, which makes him a righty - according to privileged lefties like inky
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so he voted with Democrats ~70%+ of the time, which makes him a righty - according to privileged lefties like inky


The Democratic Party is a center-right party, so yes. His votes are consistently with the center-right or the far-right. He has zero votes on record where he opposed or supported legislation from the left of the party positions. Always with them or to the right of them.

This post was edited by inkanddagger on Mar 18 2019 03:10pm
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Mar 18 2019 03:12pm
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The Democratic Party is a center-right party, so yes. His votes are consistently with the center-right or the far-right. He has zero votes on record where he opposed or supported legislation from the left of the the party positions.

the political party that universally voted for state-administered enforced 'affordable' health care is center-right. this is inevitably going towards 'anyone inky doesn't like is a righty'.
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Mar 18 2019 03:12pm
Quote (inkanddagger @ 18 Mar 2019 22:05)
The fuck are you talking about? Beto voted with Republicans almost a third of the time. No matter what lies he's spewing to fundraise right now, he's a corporate warmongering pro police state piece of shit.

https://projects.propublica.org/represent/members/O000170/votes-against-party/113

Among other things, Beto supports dismantling the VA, supports the thin blue line and making attacks on police officers (usually trumped up bullshit charges) a federal crime, he voted for the massive expansion of the military contractor slush fund budget, opposes any attempt to impeach Trump, wants to eliminate the Medicare oversight board that keeps costs contained for seniors, supports accelerated death penalties and dramatically changing the appeals process so more people can be executed without full appeal... the list is just too long and too depressing.


It's almost as if he... I dont know... represents a liberal pocket within a deeply conservative state, so that he's best served by a somewhat centrist voting record?


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I'm not a Trotskyist.

Oh, honestly sorry about that. I really thought you had called yourself a Trotskyist a couple of months ago.

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He is also to the right of me. I am philosophically more related to Proudhon, Bakunin, Luxemburg, Goldman, Tolstoy, and other left libertarians.


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the political party that universally voted for state-administered enforced 'affordable' health care is center-right. this is inevitably going towards 'anyone inky doesn't like is a righty'.


The ACA model was created by right wing think tanks to serve as a market solution to healthcare instead of a government-managed solution. Its mechanism is entirely based on capitalism and forced participation in privately managed corporate markets.

The left supports single payer.

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