I'll say it again. NK is NOT a super power. Even if their long range missiles weren't "still in development", we could still...easily shoot them down.
According to the articles posted in this topic, their long range missiles are "still in development".



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Kim Jong-un is YOUR supreme leader?

This post was edited by Ghot on Apr 17 2017 12:37am

Ofc kim jong is my suprem commander, Glorious General, Who Descended From Heaven.

I will not be rude with you anyway, have a nice day...

I'm hoping that this is just a translation error. But this IS the 2nd time you've posted about "our great leader" when referring to Kim Jong-un.

Great, China can finally stop economic sanctions.

Owning nukes means countries will think twice about invading, it has been one of the greatest assets to protect the sovereignty and peace within ones country.

I'm not one for the "sheep" metaphors here or to play the cynic, but how in the fuck do so many of you truly believe that NK does not have the missile range to deliver a nuclear weapon right to NYC or DC or somewhere major in the USA? It's as if the word propaganda slipped your memory since 9th grade history. Tensions with NK have been rising, so what comes on the news? A story about how a NK missile blew up and the headline was "failure to launch." China and Russia have had the capability to deliver missiles 10,000+ miles for over 40 years, yet you think NK is so separated from the rest of the world that they've never purchased or been given that technology? WW2 Germany had ICBM technology (3000+ mile missile capability) by the mid 1940s with their A9/A10/A11/A12 rockets and they were fueling that shit with basic alcohol and liquid o2. Primitive shit and it still worked back in the 1940s and 1950s. How is there so much naivety to think that 70 years after the first ICBMs, NK has no capability to fire a nuclear weapon far enough to hit the USA?

The blessing is that the true threat isn't actually NK, it's China or Russia using NK or another country as a pawn to spawn their wrath if they needed to do so. We do the same through Israel or Turkey or plenty of other countries. Now the reason we can actually feel semi-safe is that it's likely that if the middle east were to bomb a country it'd probably be Israel first and if NK were to do so it'd be SK or somewhere in Europe first most likely. However, to think that NK has weak missile capability because you've read a few scholarly articles that say so is unbelievably naïve.

This post was edited by AspenSniper on Apr 17 2017 06:58am

Every single nuke that has ever been made has been documented, even the ones NK has made.

Anyone who has been educated on how to create/maintain and fire Nuclear weapons has been documented. Much as the security costs and apparatus goes into research and keeping tabs or every single Nuclear weapon that has ever been made.

You can be very sure that espionage on behalf South Korea and the US has occurred and our knowledge of NK weapons program is more than likely we know their capabilities.

As much as tensions can rise between Russia and the US, they at least can be counted on that they will have a shared effort to document and prevent any other non trusted nations to have a nuclear weapons arsenal. China can be relied on upon too to this end.

China is only allowing NK to exist because they can and it hinders the strategic interests of South Korea and the United States.

I mean sure maybe this is a movie and NK somehow has weapons capabilities to strike the mainland US but if this were actually true, do you really think the US would take the actions they have? It's more than likely that the US would then make appeasement to China and give them strategic and political compromise to deal with the NK problem.

The most likely answer is NK weapons program is nothing what you think it is and the situation has just been a boiling pot for many years. The tipping point is basically when China decides they don't give a shit anymore about the situation of the political and strategic factors of what happens when NK falls. Cause reunification doesn't help China and the current status quo is actually what is best for them barring it doesn't escalate to a tipping point.

This post was edited by sir_lance_bb on Apr 17 2017 07:05am

Some people is just like Japan, a dead swamp..
No matter how much you try nothing will ever grow in there.

I absolutely believe that the USA knows what NK's true capabilities are. Russia and China are rational governments, despite what some think. They don't want to see WW3, it's too expensive both in dollars and in life. Again, if Nazi Germany could make ICBMs out of oxygen and alcohol 70 years ago, I find it very hard to believe that a country with the military spending of North Korea doesn't have the capability.

Yea. Fuck experts. Who needs 'em? We should be basing our opinions on the barely coherent rants of some rand on a gaming forum.

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Anything any one on this forum has seen on North Korea is media propaganda. North Korea isn't just going to let CNN send a news crew down into their deep underground bases to verify that they really do have missles capable of hitting anywhere on a map. If I was Kim and had a messiah complex such as his I'd be drawing everyone's attention on me the same way he is and has. He could launch 100 missles into the ocean on PURPOSE and lull the world to sleep only to wake up one day and be like ok take out the real arsenal and simultaneously launch multiple missles at multiple countries. When he does hit somewhere that they never "thought" he could the media and the military will act like they never knew he had the capability because they've been shoving the same narrative that "he can't" for a long time now knowing full well that he can and will whenever the fuck he feels like it.