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Jul 22 2022 07:51am
Quote (Norlander @ Jul 22 2022 12:40pm)
British paedophiles travelling to Poland ‘to target Ukrainian child refugees’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/british-paedophiles-ukraine-refugees-poland-b2128367.html


it harks back to what was said 100 pages or so ago - in war women and children (90% of those fleeing based on the stats from the links below) are the ones that will always suffer the most and will always be exploited due to their vulnerability. they could have been british, german, french, irlsh, american or russian. nationality is no bar to inhuman behavior, but technically this is not inhuman it is the same age old preying on the young weak and vulnerable, and that goes on, every day, all around the world.

irish article in march ~ https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40841519.html

"Traditionally, Russia and Poland have been the top destinations for Ukrainians seeking work abroad and this is where many trafficking victims are sent"

english article in march ~ https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60891801

"Trafficking rings are notoriously active in Ukraine and neighbouring countries in peace time. The fog of war is perfect cover to increase business."

see also : https://www.unhcr.org/en-ie/news/press/2022/4/6255a6964/statement-risks-trafficking-exploitation-facing-refugees-ukraine-attributed.html

i see also this: https://www.theguardian.com/global-development/2022/mar/24/vigilantes-stalk-ukraine-border-as-sex-traffickers-target-fleeing-women-and-children

would have mixed feelings on that but for sure if veterans of the french foreign legion are pissed off with you, i would suggest these peado's should definitely crawl back to the shit hole they came from.

This post was edited by ferdia on Jul 22 2022 08:04am
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Jul 22 2022 08:22am
Read the article name as "At least ten proven paedophiles from only Britain traveling to Poland to target Ukrainian child refuges". Yes, the problem was there since the conflict started. About last article, Ukrainian FFL veterans.
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Jul 22 2022 10:55am
Mark C. Arnold of Columbus a retired U.S. Army Brigadier General and Special Forces officer, wrote an article saying that West must take the initiative to bring an end to this humanitarian disaster.
According to the General, NATO or another coalition of like-minded Western nations should use conventional air power in Ukraine, including Crimea and the Donbas.
The result will motivate Putin to negotiate a cease-fire and withdraw or risk his army’s destruction and forced retreat. A free Ukraine will rebuild peacefully and democratically, with history reflecting a proud moment for democracy.

Read the full article for free here:
https://eu.dispatch.com/story/opinion/columns/guest/2022/07/21/opinion-western-nations-must-send-military-end-war-ukraine/10082848002/
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Jul 22 2022 10:58am
Quote (Ironfister @ Jul 22 2022 12:55pm)
Mark C. Arnold of Columbus a retired U.S. Army Brigadier General and Special Forces officer, wrote an article saying that West must take the initiative to bring an end to this humanitarian disaster.
According to the General, NATO or another coalition of like-minded Western nations should use conventional air power in Ukraine, including Crimea and the Donbas.
The result will motivate Putin to negotiate a cease-fire and withdraw or risk his army’s destruction and forced retreat. A free Ukraine will rebuild peacefully and democratically, with history reflecting a proud moment for democracy.

Read the full article for free here:
https://eu.dispatch.com/story/opinion/columns/guest/2022/07/21/opinion-western-nations-must-send-military-end-war-ukraine/10082848002/


I'm selfish and don't want want to risk my security by increasing the likelihood of nuclear war.
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Jul 22 2022 11:08am
Quote (bogie160 @ 22 Jul 2022 18:58)
I'm selfish and don't want want to risk my security by increasing the likelihood of nuclear war.


If you do nothing, Russia grows in strength, while your europeans friends will faint, so it will in fact decrease your security and likelihood of nuclear war will actually grow.
You cannot just always run away from the bad guys, because you will run out of places to hide.
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Jul 22 2022 11:41am
Quote (Ironfister @ Jul 22 2022 06:08pm)
If you do nothing, Russia grows in strength.


I wholly refute this statement. Russia is not acting, they are reacting.

in case im determined as a russian troll, go read and get educated.

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Quote (ferdia @ 22 Jul 2022 20:41)
I wholly refute this statement. Russia is not acting, they are reacting.


To suspension of certification of Nord Stream 2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_2
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Quote (Norlander @ Jul 22 2022 06:48pm)
To suspension of certification of Nord Stream 2.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nord_Stream_2


i made a slight edit to my post. ehmm relating to Nord Stream, I dont see it as a fundamental issue one way or the other. the fact is that western relations with russia were not terrible in the 90's and 2000's, its only in the last 15 years that things have ever deteriorated until it got to where we are today. its foreign policy that led us to here.

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Jul 22 2022 11:53am
Quote (Ironfister @ 23 Jul 2022 01:08)
If you do nothing, Russia grows in strength, while your europeans friends will faint, so it will in fact decrease your security and likelihood of nuclear war will actually grow.
You cannot just always run away from the bad guys, because you will run out of places to hide.


You are partially right, because the World did nothing and was too poor and backwards for the past 40 years, that is why America have 650 bases around the world in the name of Freedom and Democracy.
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Jul 22 2022 12:03pm
Quote (ferdia @ 22 Jul 2022 20:51)
i made a slight edit to my post. ehmm relating to Nord Stream, I dont see it as a fundamental issue one way or the other. the fact is that western relations with russia were not terrible in the 90's and 2000's, its only in the last 15 years that things have ever deteriorated until it got to where we are today. its foreign policy that led us to here.


It's not about Russia-West relationships. It's about money. Russian gas export mostly relies on Ukrainian pipeline (95% in 90s).
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