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Jul 17 2022 06:32am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jul 17 2022 12:03am)
Putin can take as much territory as he wants, there is nothing holding him back. The slow but steady pace is just designed to reduce casualties while grinding down the enemy. This has proven to be very effective, as the Ukrainians are losing anything from 300 - 500 men KIA per day.

You sound like a good ol' Anglosaxon imperialist, with absolutely zero sense of self-awareness. Zelensky is sacrificing thousands of young men for the new world order in a war that was already lost. If he cared about his people, he would compromise. There are hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians that do not like Zelensky and are more than happy to join Russia, as has been evidenced on dozens of occasions.

I took a break from this place but I see nothing has changed. You are still spouting pseudo-nonsense in this thread while pretending like you have a clue. It's sad that you still haven't learned anything. Putin will end up taking another 30% of Ukraine's territory by the end of the year and you will still be talking about how Zelensky can't give up or else "Russia wins"... LMAO... So delusional


Huylo liar back to his usual lying ways.
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Jul 17 2022 07:42am
Quote (duffman316 @ Jul 17 2022 03:56am)
Is there any russian barbarism that you don't support? You seem to be onboard with blowing up schools, malls and hospitals in this thread.


If those schools, malls and hospitals are full of Ukrainian soldiers and Ukrainian army ammunition & weapons, as they have been using them for since the war started, then yes they absolutely deserve to be targeted.
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Jul 17 2022 08:07am
Quote (Santara @ Jul 17 2022 06:32am)
Huylo liar back to his usual lying ways.


The guy who doesn't want to accept reality still won't accept reality. More news at eleven
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Jul 17 2022 08:26am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 16 2022 11:38pm)
"Putin is almighty, the only thing holding him back is that he's such a benevolent philantropist who's concerned with minimizing casualties."

*calls others delusional*




By the way, how do you explain Russian missiles and grenades hitting residential and civilian buildings all across Ukraine every day if the goal was to "reduce casualties"?


Ukraine is being forced to just pull thousands of random untrained people off the streets, give them a week training and a dusty AK and send em' to the front just to prevent a total collapse, and you think Zelensky is accomplishing anything other than delaying the inevitable?

Wake up and realize that thousands are being sacrificed for a losing battle.. Russia is taking towns/villages every week and will continue to do so as Ukraine simply cannot push them back.

Your anglosaxon imperalist Washington Post/CNN/Buzzfeed fantasies don't change this
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Jul 17 2022 11:23am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ 17 Jul 2022 16:26)
Ukraine is being forced to just pull thousands of random untrained people off the streets, give them a week training and a dusty AK and send em' to the front just to prevent a total collapse, and you think Zelensky is accomplishing anything other than delaying the inevitable?

Wake up and realize that thousands are being sacrificed for a losing battle.. Russia is taking towns/villages every week and will continue to do so as Ukraine simply cannot push them back.

Your anglosaxon imperalist Washington Post/CNN/Buzzfeed fantasies don't change this


Totally wrong.
Ukraine army trains their troops for months, some units are in training since 3 or 4 months already. Sometimes they send some of trainees to the frontline for a short period, to see how the real war looks like, but they come back later and continue training.
Its easier to defend than to attack, this is why Ukraine has a rather defensive stance and prefers to give some towns and villages rather than let Russians kill soldiers. Really 1% area lost in last 3 months is not a problem. Especially since Russians have to raze the towns to ground to take them over, so they take ruins.
Casaulties are about the same now for both sides: Russians still have some advantage in artillery power, but because Putin forces them to attack, they also lose people.
When it comes to satelite intelligence its 20 to 1 for Ukraine. Russia has only 1 radar satelite (radar satellites can see even through clouds).
I dont know who will win the war, it seems its a close one. Each side has its advantages and some disadvantages.
Stop the evil Putin's Russians, help Ukraine and whole Europe, please
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Jul 17 2022 11:36am
Quote (Ironfister @ 17 Jul 2022 13:04)
Watched a YouTube video from an expert lately, and would like to share some info with you guys.
2 himars launchers launching 6 or 12 gmlrs rockets are equal firepower to Russian 12 smercz launchers launching 144 rockets.
This is because gmlrs are precision weapons, that land where you tell it, while smercz lands somewhere in area of 3 football pitches.
So you need to use 144 smercz rockets to make sure some of them land in the right spot.
Also there were about 90 Russian warehouses on the total on frontline, from Kharkiv to Cherson. Ukrainians in the last 10 days destroyed half of them.
Its a huge hit for Russians, but not a something they cant recover from. Russians will learn how to deal with it, they will probably move their warehouses 90km from the frontline, as Ukrainian rockets have 80km range.
But it means trouble when you have to bring supplies 100km away, especially given that Russian army, unlike NATO, doesnt have a good logistics.
A tank burns 800-1000 litres of oil per 100kilometres. Logistics and supplies are very important on the battlefront, according to the expert, and this is why Ukrainians hit warehouses, command and communication centers, which are considered more important targets than tanks or artillery launchers.
This is NATO school of combat: destroy enemy capabilities, as an artillery without ammo or tank without fuel wont do anything.

Russia is using its almost infinite supply of ancient soviet-era tech and ammunition. They will not run out of T-72s and T-62s anytime soon, dito for their 50 year old artillery systems. In the battles for Sieverodonetsk and Lysichansk, they used this to muster overwhelming firepower in a small region. Attacking the underlying supply lines and logistics is the smart and obvious thing to do.

It should also be noted that the Russian artillery actually had a range advantage during this battle, which has now flipped to Ukraine thanks to Western rocket launchers and howitzers. But yes, Ukraine needs a lot more of this stuff so that they can decisively turn the tide of this war.
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Jul 17 2022 11:50am
Quote (Ironfister @ Jul 17 2022 11:23am)
Totally wrong.
Ukraine army trains their troops for months, some units are in training since 3 or 4 months already. Sometimes they send some of trainees to the frontline for a short period, to see how the real war looks like, but they come back later and continue training.
Its easier to defend than to attack, this is why Ukraine has a rather defensive stance and prefers to give some towns and villages rather than let Russians kill soldiers. Really 1% area lost in last 3 months is not a problem. Especially since Russians have to raze the towns to ground to take them over, so they take ruins.
Casaulties are about the same now for both sides: Russians still have some advantage in artillery power, but because Putin forces them to attack, they also lose people.
When it comes to satelite intelligence its 20 to 1 for Ukraine. Russia has only 1 radar satelite (radar satellites can see even through clouds).
I dont know who will win the war, it seems its a close one. Each side has its advantages and some disadvantages.
Stop the evil Putin's Russians, help Ukraine and whole Europe, please


Dude you are a brainwashed Polish guy, a country which has been totally brainwashed to the core to hate Russia and disregard all logic and all common sense. The posts you've made here are proof of this, as they have been totally disconnected from reality since day one.

You are cheap pawns doing the bidding of the elites in regards to your actions in support of Ukraine. Just like how these same elites have used the Ukrainian people as a sacrifice to do some minor harm to Russia. It's funny because the Ukrainians are pretty much dying for nothing, they aren't really seriously damaging Russia's military or economy. Meaning their sacrifice for the elite is in vain. Neither the Ukrainians nor the Polish have any self-respect whatsoever.. you are all more than happy to offer yourselves as sacrifices for the new world order. It makes me sick.

The facts are that Russia is able to wage offensive operations and take territory, and Ukraine cannot even muster a serious counter-offensive. Anytime they have tried, they have taken massive losses. It's true that some Ukrainians are fighting well, but it's not enough to just "fight well" in some areas while overall their forces are disorganized, constantly engaging in friendly fire incidents and completely incapable of retaking lost ground.

When you have one side - Russia - that is slowly taking territory and inflicting massive losses on the other side every week, while Ukraine can merely hang on here and there for a short time while inflicting significantly less losses on Russian forces than what they are taking, it means that they simply have no way to win. Russia will just keep chipping away and taking ground day by day, week by week and month by month, for literally years if they have to, all the way up until they reach the border with Poland and all of Ukraine becomes Russia..

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Jul 17 2022 11:52am
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Jul 17 2022 11:57am
Quote (Black XistenZ @ Jul 17 2022 11:36am)
Russia is using its almost infinite supply of ancient soviet-era tech and ammunition. They will not run out of T-72s and T-62s anytime soon, dito for their 50 year old artillery systems. In the battles for Sieverodonetsk and Lysichansk, they used this to muster overwhelming firepower in a small region. Attacking the underlying supply lines and logistics is the smart and obvious thing to do.

It should also be noted that the Russian artillery actually had a range advantage during this battle, which has now flipped to Ukraine thanks to Western rocket launchers and howitzers. But yes, Ukraine needs a lot more of this stuff so that they can decisively turn the tide of this war.


You think Ukraine suddenly has the advantage in artillery now because of a few western provided howitzers... half of which have already been blown up and the other half mostly being used to target civilians in Donetsk?

LOL

LMFAO

ROTFLMAO

Please grow a brain since you don't have one and stop getting your Ukraine war opinions from reddit and the mass media, it's sad to watch you degrade yourself like this

There is no "decisively turning the tide of the war" for Ukraine, they already lost their best units and now they are just barely chugging along with a combination of foreign mercs and cheap disposable cannon fodder. No amount of equipment will change anything. Dear God man, how did you end up being fooled THIS badly?

This post was edited by chopstickz777 on Jul 17 2022 11:59am
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Jul 17 2022 12:04pm
Just watched footage from the Russian MoD of an American HIMARS launcher and support vehicles getting blown sky high.

They only got like 4 of these systems from the US so far, and they have already lost at-least half of them... LOL.... oh yeah, all this western provided equipment is making such a huge difference!
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Jul 17 2022 01:54pm
Another video of an American M777 howitzer in Ukraine just got posted to twitter. The whole position was lit up by russian counter-battery fire. This is the fate of every western artillery piece sent to Ukraine
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