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Jun 29 2022 11:03am
Quote (Lvivz @ Jun 29 2022 05:31am)
And as symbolic as it is, russia has finally defaulted on its obligations, when winter comes and ordinary russians will start feeling first effects of the very painful sanctions things will get nasty really really quick over there. Question is whether the silovik machine will be able to put down kholops who don't want to live like animals in Africa, and "triumphs" of destroying 40-80,000 towns every 2-3 months in eastern Ukraine definitely won't be enough to feed and control zombies who live near biggest gas exporting pumps in the world, yet have to burn wood in the stove to not freeze in the winter.

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LOL he's still talking about sanctions :rofl:

Russia doesn't give a fuck
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Jun 29 2022 11:32am
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 29 2022 12:02pm)
If Finland or Sweden become a problem then it can be solved with one missile each. They are dumb as fuck, Russia won't treat them kindly like Ukraine


Russia will shut the fuck up like the little bitches they are.
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Jun 29 2022 11:56am
Quote (Santara @ Jun 28 2022 09:52pm)
Or better yet, Axis and Allies.


risk is a good strategy game but 2 player risk sucks ass tbh.
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Jun 29 2022 12:20pm
Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 29 2022 03:56am)
The distinction here is that they didn't try to unsuccessfully storm or siege the city. They backed away without a major engagement. They certainly tried to surround the city, to maneuver large amounts of forces and troops into position, but they just sat there and did not breach the city en masse, nor bombard it with their overwhelming artillery and mass missile strikes. The fighting that did happen was very sporadic and isolated, not even damaging any critical infrastructure. Perhaps capturing the city outright would require more troops than Russia fielded, maybe it would have been possible, I don't think we know, because it wasn't put to the test. But we know they could have flattened Kiev and turned it into a smoking ruin with just artillery or airstrikes, and that wouldn't take 500,000 troops to accomplish, and could be done with conventional weapons as we've seen in the other cities.

So to bring it back to the original point- was it some kind of strategic error, where they planned around a decapitation strike and the abrupt fall of the regime, and had no backup plan, and just reworked their whole strategy on the fly? Or was it a gambit, a low investment into the hope that they could take Ukraine without a fight, a bluff that they would not follow through if the Ukrainians stood their ground?


I suppose it depends on how you define "major engagement." The Russians lost a couple thousand in Kiev alone and a couple more thousand on the supporting axes in Sumy and Chernihiv. They lost just as many people in a month in that region as we did during the entire Iraq War. The amount of special forces that they lost is akin to dozens of "Black Hawk Down" scenarios. From my perspective, it's pretty catastrophic and major. Anyway, the reason they had to retreat is because they were defeated and stalled. They TRIED bringing in overwhelming artillery, mass missile strikes, etc. but Kyiv was one of the most well protected cities in the world (for obvious reasons). The Russians lost several aircraft while trying to attack Kyiv because they have solid air defense there. Yes, the Russians HAVE the artillery to flatten Kyiv but they couldn't get it in place and they couldn't protect it. The Russians couldn't provide air support or the troops. In Eastern Ukraine, the Russians established much stronger supply lines and have much better defenses for their artillery. The Russians can rely on air defenses in Russia to neuter any sort of Ukrainian air attack there.
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Jun 29 2022 12:34pm
Quote (Santara @ Jun 29 2022 11:32am)
Russia will shut the fuck up like the little bitches they are.


Yeah just like how they shut the fuck up when Ukraine was moving to attack Donbass & talking about joining NATO at Biden's behest.

This world will never forget how the stupidity of Biden and Zelensky almost (and still could) drag us into hell and ww3.
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Jun 29 2022 12:38pm
Quote (Santara @ 29 Jun 2022 04:31)
Is there even risk online?

Enemy of my enemy.


Sort of. There's a game called "Warzone" which is based on it and is in many ways better.

I would agree that 2 player risk is pretty stupid, tbh.
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Jun 29 2022 01:44pm
Quote (chopstickz777 @ Jun 29 2022 01:34pm)
Yeah just like how they shut the fuck up when Ukraine was moving to attack Donbass & talking about joining NATO at Biden's behest.

This world will never forget how the stupidity of Biden and Zelensky almost (and still could) drag us into hell and ww3.


No one buys your fucking lies, huylo.
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Jun 29 2022 01:45pm
Quote (InsaneBobb @ Jun 29 2022 01:38pm)
Sort of. There's a game called "Warzone" which is based on it and is in many ways better.

I would agree that 2 player risk is pretty stupid, tbh.


2 player A&A is not.
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Jun 29 2022 02:38pm
Quote (Santara @ Jun 29 2022 01:44pm)
No one buys your fucking lies, huylo.


It must be so weird to live in your world. Where up is down and down is up and water isn't wet and Ukraine are innocent victims in all this lol..
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Jun 29 2022 02:51pm
With Sweden and Finland officially joining NATO, we are now in talks with deploying nuclear weapons that can quickly strike Moscow and St. Petersburg. Deploying nuclear weapons in the Baltics would be seen as a provocation by Russia but deploying them in Finnish territory can only be seen as a defensive maneuver. Biden and Harris are completely outsmarting Putin and putting his balls in a blender. I've never been prouder to be an American.
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