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Feb 9 2017 10:05pm
Quote (GetOnYourKnees @ Feb 10 2017 05:20am)
But morality comes from the sadistic mass murderer in the sky, didn't you know?


In your professional opinion, at what point is taking a life considered just?
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Feb 10 2017 02:57pm
Caught on surveillance camera a man gets struck by lighting twice and lives. Later at the hospital he told doctors he was going to rob the couple that were walking just ahead of him.

https://www.facebook.com/1432456544/videos/10201666387448119/?pnref=story
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Caught on surveillance camera a man gets struck by lighting twice and lives. Later at the hospital he told doctors he was going to rob the couple that were walking just ahead of him.

https://www.facebook.com/1432456544/videos/10201666387448119/?pnref=story


The assumption being that god struck the miscreant down to protect the couple?

Meanwhile, god doesn't seem to care about the other 99.9999% of sufferers

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fritzl_case

Just imagine god and the angels watching down from heaven for 24 years, while this woman was raped and starved by her father... :)
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Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ Feb 11 2017 06:57am)
Caught on surveillance camera a man gets struck by lighting twice and lives. Later at the hospital he told doctors he was going to rob the couple that were walking just ahead of him.

https://www.facebook.com/1432456544/videos/10201666387448119/?pnref=story


I agree with GetOnYourKnees here.

You really should not post that kind of stuff whilst neglecting all of the other cases where there weren't divine interventions. That is the argument that you will be up against.

Why don't you start quoting Bible verses when you bump this thread? At least then they will have to try to disprove God's word. May I advise you start with 1 Corinthians 11:1?
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Feb 11 2017 08:50pm
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I agree with GetOnYourKnees here.

You really should not post that kind of stuff whilst neglecting all of the other cases where there weren't divine interventions. That is the argument that you will be up against.

Why don't you start quoting Bible verses when you bump this thread? At least then they will have to try to disprove God's word. May I advise you start with 1 Corinthians 11:1?


Just because God may choose to intervene at certain times and not to intervene at others doesn't make it any less an act of God. I never actually said that it was 100% an act of God anyway. It may very well have been though from the way it looks.
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Feb 11 2017 08:56pm
what if i tell you this couple are muslims?
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Feb 11 2017 09:02pm
Quote (xfrodobagginsx @ Feb 11 2017 06:50pm)
Just because God may choose to intervene at certain times and not to intervene at others doesn't make it any less an act of God. I never actually said that it was 100% an act of God anyway. It may very well have been though from the way it looks.


Ah yes the good ol, "It could be God because you can't prove it wasn't God" argument. Well played

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I agree with GetOnYourKnees here.

You really should not post that kind of stuff whilst neglecting all of the other cases where there weren't divine interventions. That is the argument that you will be up against.

Why don't you start quoting Bible verses when you bump this thread? At least then they will have to try to disprove God's word. May I advise you start with 1 Corinthians 11:1?


Also this. Even though 11:1 isn't something that is provable or disprovable, it is simply a statement to follow. It's not a claim of truth.

This post was edited by Impose on Feb 11 2017 09:03pm
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Just because God may choose to intervene at certain times and not to intervene at others doesn't make it any less an act of God. I never actually said that it was 100% an act of God anyway. It may very well have been though from the way it looks.


Since you are posting in this thread which is about God you are implying that it was an act of God. You may not have said it explicitly but we can all see what is going on behind that post and what it means.

I'm not at all saying that it wasn't divine intervention. I'm saying that you posting stuff like that, you will come up against the argument of how there were many other cases where there wasn't divine intervention. What about the woman who was raped and starved by her father? You will be questioned about where God was during that time.

What I am saying is that if you are going to bump this thread every 3-4 days, why not instead post a Bible verse? I suggested 1 Corinthians 11:1 as a simple statement to follow. Paul says to be imitators of him as he is imitating Christ. Why not try to spark a discussion about whether or not imitating what somebody else does is viable or not?

Or perhaps post some other Bible verses which are claims of truth as Impose would perhaps suggest.
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Feb 12 2017 08:32pm
Quote (CPK001 @ Feb 12 2017 01:34am)
Since you are posting in this thread which is about God you are implying that it was an act of God. You may not have said it explicitly but we can all see what is going on behind that post and what it means.

I'm not at all saying that it wasn't divine intervention. I'm saying that you posting stuff like that, you will come up against the argument of how there were many other cases where there wasn't divine intervention. What about the woman who was raped and starved by her father? You will be questioned about where God was during that time.

What I am saying is that if you are going to bump this thread every 3-4 days, why not instead post a Bible verse? I suggested 1 Corinthians 11:1 as a simple statement to follow. Paul says to be imitators of him as he is imitating Christ. Why not try to spark a discussion about whether or not imitating what somebody else does is viable or not?

Or perhaps post some other Bible verses which are claims of truth as Impose would perhaps suggest.


I'm not trying to pigeonhole whatever verses you want. Most debate is generally revolving around verses of the Bible with claims to truth that can be refuted based on evidence or some such. The reason I didn't think 11:1 was a good idea is because in order for you to believe Paul is acting as an imitation of Christ requires you to believe in Christ already, which I think most people debating against religion do not. So that verse is sort of a moot point when it comes to debate. Jeremiah 29:11 is something can be debated on a moral ground but it doesn't make for a good structured debate based on evidence. etc etc etc.

You get what I mean
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Feb 12 2017 08:36pm
Quote (DaJockaz @ Feb 12 2017 02:56am)
what if i tell you this couple are muslims?


Interestlingly, 50-70% of the Muslims that turn to Jesus Christ admit that they did so because of a dream or a vision from Jesus Christ. God loves muslims and wants to save them from their sins like anyone else.
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