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Quote (Santara @ Jun 16 2022 06:21pm)
So what about the Nazis the Russians are using? By the same logic, the Russians deserve to lose and cease to be a state because they're using Wagner group Nazis in Ukraine.


This is such an idiotic comparison.

Every country has Nazis. The difference here is the rates and prevalence. On one side you have literally thousands, if not tens of thousands who are part of Azov/Right Sector and other such groups. These groups generated tons of widespread support, many officially recognized and folded in the government/military structure, many are glorified in the Ukrainian MSM. It wasn't uncommon before the war for thousands of people to be marching in Kiev or Lviv holding Azov/Bandera/Right Sector flags. On the other side you have a few photos of some Wagner guy with Nazi tattoos. Wagner group isn't motivated by white supremacist or Russian supremacist tendencies but money. That's why they fight in the Middle East and Africa and other shit parts of the world. The two are not even remotely the same, so why continue to lie?

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Jun 16 2022 04:49pm
Quote (Santara @ 17 Jun 2022 01:36)
Ukrainian Nazis are racist against Russian orcs.

Russian orcs are racist against Ukrainians.

Not just different nationalities, different ethnicities. Both sides can totally have their own pet Nazis.


Nazies are eliminating nazies. This cake is perfect without any candle.
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This is such an idiotic comparison.

Every country has Nazis. The difference here is the rates and prevalence. On one side you have literally thousands, if not tens of thousands who are part of Azov/Right Sector and other such groups. These groups generated tons of widespread support, many officially recognized and folded in the government/military structure, many are glorified in the Ukrainian MSM. It wasn't uncommon before the war for thousands of people to be marching in Kiev or Lviv holding Azov/Bandera/Right Sector flags. On the other side you have a few photos of some Wagner guy with Nazi tattoos. Wagner group isn't motivated by white supremacist or Russian supremacist tendencies but money. That's why they fight in the Middle East and Africa and other shit parts of the world. The two are not even remotely the same, so why continue to lie?


You may bring some real source, especially on the "difference" and "ten of thousands" etc... Else it's fucking shit.

Quote (Norlander @ 16 Jun 2022 22:49)
Nazies are eliminating nazies. This cake is perfect without any candle.


Both sides send their "special nationalists" to fight each others for sure.

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You may bring some real source, especially on the "difference" and "ten of thousands" etc... Else it's fucking shit.



Both sides send their "special nationalists" to fight each others for sure.


Ain't it a perfect plan to get rid of both? Embrace your warriors, Wotan, they are coming back home. In pieces.

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This is such an idiotic comparison.

Every country has Nazis. The difference here is the rates and prevalence. On one side you have literally thousands, if not tens of thousands who are part of Azov/Right Sector and other such groups. These groups generated tons of widespread support, many officially recognized and folded in the government/military structure, many are glorified in the Ukrainian MSM. It wasn't uncommon before the war for thousands of people to be marching in Kiev or Lviv holding Azov/Bandera/Right Sector flags. On the other side you have a few photos of some Wagner guy with Nazi tattoos. Wagner group isn't motivated by white supremacist or Russian supremacist tendencies but money. That's why they fight in the Middle East and Africa and other shit parts of the world. The two are not even remotely the same, so why continue to lie?


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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 16 2022 06:50pm)
You may bring some real source, especially on the "difference" and "ten of thousands" etc... Else it's fucking shit.


There's plenty of evidence including many western sources that have reported on this since 2014. Sounds like you don't much care for facts that inconvenience you? At this point there has been hundreds of links posted documenting this so I don't expect you to all of the sudden be convinced.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/01/ukraine-bandera/4279897/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to-nazi-collaborator/
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Quote (ofthevoid @ 16 Jun 2022 22:59)
There's plenty of evidence including many western sources that have reported on this since 2014. Sounds like you don't much care for facts that inconvenience you? At this point there has been hundreds of links posted documenting this so I don't expect you to all of the sudden be convinced.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/01/01/ukraine-bandera/4279897/
https://www.timesofisrael.com/hundreds-march-in-ukraine-in-annual-tribute-to-nazi-collaborator/


Hundreds of people on second link. You are pumping your shit from 2014. Not suprising.
Things have changed by alot, i think Azov bataillon got integrated into army and is now cleaned of most extremes, 1 thousand left.

"dozen of thousands" ? Dude, your country has more racists & "nazis" per capita than Ukraine.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jun 16 2022 07:10pm)
Hundreds of people on second link. Dude you pump your shit from 2014. Not suprising.
Things have changed by alot, i think Azov bataillon got integrated into army and is now cleaned of most extremes, 1 thousand left.

"dozen of thousands" ? Dude, your country has more racists & "nazis" per capita than Ukraine.



Where did I use the word dozens? So you just ignored the link where it literally says 15k marching? Like I said facts you don’t like simply ignored.
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Jun 16 2022 05:17pm
Quote (ofthevoid @ 16 Jun 2022 23:13)
Where did I use the word dozens? So you just ignored the link where it literally says 15k marching? Like I said facts you don’t like simply ignored.


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This is such an idiotic comparison.

Every country has Nazis. The difference here is the rates and prevalence. On one side you have literally thousands, if not tens of thousands who are part of Azov/Right Sector and other such groups. These groups generated tons of widespread support, many officially recognized and folded in the government/military structure, many are glorified in the Ukrainian MSM. It wasn't uncommon before the war for thousands of people to be marching in Kiev or Lviv holding Azov/Bandera/Right Sector flags. On the other side you have a few photos of some Wagner guy with Nazi tattoos. Wagner group isn't motivated by white supremacist or Russian supremacist tendencies but money. That's why they fight in the Middle East and Africa and other shit parts of the world. The two are not even remotely the same, so why continue to lie?


You realize that Ukraine is a 40 millions people country ? Can you handle that ?
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