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Mar 6 2022 12:19pm
Quote (Djunior @ Mar 6 2022 11:33am)
I'm pointing out nobody should applaud this "elite gg Western legion" ;)

The truth sucks I guess


No one should admire any colonial pushing military force. They always always do bad things to the people they are trying to colonize.

But that's not the current job of the foreign legion.
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Mar 6 2022 12:44pm
Why are so many people & companies virtue signalling the Ukraine v Russia War.

Before you reply, please read the definition of virtue signaling
the sharing of one's point of view on a social or political issue, often on social media, in order to garner praise or acknowledgment of one’s righteousness from others who share that point of view, or to passively rebuke those who do not

So I ask you why are so many people claiming their support for the Ukraine while it gets hellfire rained down on it and those self proclaimed supporters do nothing.
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Mar 6 2022 12:50pm
Quote (Mondain @ 6 Mar 2022 19:44)
Why are so many people & companies virtue signalling the Ukraine v Russia War.

Before you reply, please read the definition of virtue signaling
the sharing of one's point of view on a social or political issue, often on social media, in order to garner praise or acknowledgment of one’s righteousness from others who share that point of view, or to passively rebuke those who do not

So I ask you why are so many people claiming their support for the Ukraine while it gets hellfire rained down on it and those self proclaimed supporters do nothing.


Virtue signalling is cheap PR for companies, particularly when it's on a non-divisive issue where 90+ percent of the people agree.
For private citizens, it's a way to express their feelings and demonstrate their righteousness. And again, the main appeal is that it's cheap while supporting things like oil embargos would come with a personal cost.
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Mar 6 2022 12:56pm
what he said. most of the users on this site would be from western societies were our governments are heavily biased towards our|the geo-political viewpoint, therefore to them I would say - companies/entities providing|portraying this social justice warrior image get free pr, why would they not jump on the bandwagon? in our society they are mental not to, noting they are getting their name out there and seen. its perfectly normal behaviour in times like this.

ultimately alot of people, companies and economies will suffer from this war, but there are always winners and losers in times like this and some entities will adapt faster then others, for good or ill, whether right, wrong, misguided or just plain morally bankrupt.

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 6 2022 05:50pm)
Yeah, I'm also starting to get annoyed by the tone Zelensky is striking when talking to his allies. But like I said: for now, I'm willing to cut the desperate man some slack.

And yes, we obviously shouldn't take the Ukrainian words and reports as gospel, they are of course also spreading propaganda and spinning reality to fit their desired narrative, just like the Russians do. Still, at the end of the day, it's crystal clear that the Russians are the aggressors in this conflict.


sure they are the aggressors, 100%

doesnt mean however that the current ukranian regime and selensky are not oligarch sponsored puppets or that the west literally didnt give a shit about ukraine getting crushed between the geopolitical interests of russia and NATO

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Mar 6 2022 01:28pm
some nuances but yes.

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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 6 Mar 2022 20:21)
sure they are the aggressors, 100%

doesnt mean however that the current ukranian regime and selensky are not oligarch sponsored puppets or that the west literally didnt give a shit about ukraine getting crushed between the geopolitical interests of russia and NATO


But which geopolitical interests does NATO even have with regard to Russia? Classifying the Russians as a middling "regional power" and reallocating focus and resources away from them and towards China has been the geostrategic goal since the Obama days. Them being a thorn in our side is to our detriment and to the benefit of China. This is also why the Chinese are covering them although the invasion of Ukraine is an overt violation of the principle of indivisible national sovereignty that China (ostensibly) emphasizes all the time.

Do you seriously think that there is, or was, some long-term plan by NATO to surround and corner Russia and prepare them for a Western invasion?

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Quote (Black XistenZ @ Mar 6 2022 12:50pm)
Virtue signalling is cheap PR for companies, particularly when it's on a non-divisive issue where 90+ percent of the people agree.
For private citizens, it's a way to express their feelings and demonstrate their righteousness. And again, the main appeal is that it's cheap while supporting things like oil embargos would come with a personal cost.


I find it hilarious that you can see through the guise on this issue, but think woke culture is prevalent or influential in American organizations.

It's literally the same thing. Virtue signaling without any real commitment to changes.

This post was edited by NetflixAdaptationWidow on Mar 6 2022 01:35pm
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Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Mar 6 2022 08:21pm)
sure they are the aggressors, 100%

doesnt mean however that the current ukranian regime and selensky are not oligarch sponsored puppets or that the west literally didnt give a shit about ukraine getting crushed between the geopolitical interests of russia and NATO


Bold is clearly what it's all about.
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Quote (NetflixAdaptationWidow @ 6 Mar 2022 20:35)
I find it hilarious that you can see through the guise on this issue, but think woke culture is prevalent or influential in American organizations.

It's literally the same thing. Virtue signaling without any real commitment to changes.


that's assuming he was an honest actor. remember how he acted like he wasn't aware of republican lead censorship efforts? blackx is a hack. he does acknowledges obvious connections and does nuance when it suits his chosen narrative, and acts like an oblivious fool when it doesn't. this simple explanation solves the "mystery" of all his contradicting stances...
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