Exactly. SK is an ally.

So you want to hand a country of bloodthirsty fanatics, where most of the population has years of military training, over to South Korea? Which decade were you projecting this to happen in?

bloodthirsty fanatics?

As stated about 100 times already, the NK people have been cut off from the outside world, by their leaders. But still know they are being mistreated.
SK already knows the North Koreans. NK is not a land of blood thirsty fanatics. It is a land with leaders who are bloodthirsty fanatics.

If a military action is required, the hand over will not be as bad as you are making it.

The real problem is China, not NK. NK is dancing to China's strings. All of this has been stated before. Maybe you should take a look at all 1000 or so posts, then get rowdy if you feel the need.

This post was edited by Ghot on Oct 7 2017 10:10pm

They might know they're being mistreated, but I bet a majority of them think that the U.S. and SK are significantly worse.

We have perhaps the most educated population ever, with the Internet too, and people are still dumb as fucking rocks. 1/10 of college graduates think Judge Judy is on the Supreme Court. A not-so-insignificant percent of our population can't even name one branch of government.

A greater percentage of researchers believe in the human-global warming link than believe that smoking is harmful, yet half the country is in denial. And you're telling me that NKoreans, North Korea, will be rational... that they're not all wound up in Kim Jong's BS... or that a significant percentage of their population simply does not hate us and SK? Their children spend most of their time playing specially designed video games where they massacre Allied forces, for gods sake. The brainwash is real. I sincerely doubt any kind of takeover by the South.

This post was edited by Interesting on Oct 7 2017 10:22pm

US and NK will never go to war. eventually the regime will be replaced by some kind of internal scuffle paid for by china. and then NK will be a puppet to china, but never will the US get involved, south korea would suffer too badly from war, and would never allow the US to do so

Here's the problem...

China has instigated NK's current violation of UN agreements, probably promising to protect NK, and eventually give SK to NK.
Since NK's flouting of UN agreements, the trend has now moved to and included Iran.

The problem is, that it needs to be stopped, or we definitely will end up in WW III.

All the nuclear power now, mainly the US, Russia and China...have already had 70 years to war game nuclear confrontation, and have come to the realization that the world can not survive a nuclear war.
So the threat of small, angry, irrational countries developing nuclear capabilities is a situation that cannot be tolerated.

No country can ever play the nuke card. Not anymore. Nukes are too powerful and too easy to build.

China hates NK. NK hates China. NK is not an actual threat to anyone. The only reason it still exists is because both China and the US want it to.

Well, the sanctions never really worked because, in the fine print, sanctions actually list companies and entities. That works well in the global economy where it takes a lot of time (too much time and money for it to be viable) to change branding and legally change names, but as a state-run economy, North Korea would just effectively change the names the next day and undermine a significant amount of the sanctions that were placed on it over the years.

North Korea doesn't need China anymore. North Korea knows what China's new aims are... this isn't Mao's China anymore. That's more than likely why Kim is pushing for more advanced nuclear weaponry.

I don't know what we do, but I extremly dislike all of the options on the table. Doing nothing is probably the most viable option.

A sizable population of NK, including Kim Jong-un, want reunification of the peninsula. Their hate isn't toward each other really, but rather toward the U.S. over the Korean war atrocities. Neither side, especially with the Moon Jae-in presidency, wants war on the peninsula.

Lately, China and Russia both are becoming much less tolerant of NKs antics, and new sanctions are being implemented (actually implemented) by China which could have a sizeable impact on NK. We'll see.

What's interesting about the sanctions is that they seemingly get subsidized by South Korea's humanitarian efforts. Maybe these new sanctions will actually hit the NK elite instead of being shifted toward the people of NK.