There was obviously collusion, proving it will be tough though.

If its real thats probably the best evidence of collusion so far. Cohen and Trump so strenuously rejected it, Cohen saying hes never even been to the Czech Republic. He wouldnt deny it so directly unless it was either so damning the tapestry comes unwoven by tugging on it, or if he knew it was bullshit. And he showed proof he was in california on the week alleged by the original report, but this accuses him of being there earlier

however, theres still that 'if'. Because it wouldnt be the first time a bombshell anonymous source turned out wrong. They've only cited those anonymous leakers, and everyone has been making such a big deal about how leakproof Mueller is, and theres such a cloud over Cohen from the political circus right now that theres reason to be skeptical. What if the leak is legit, but Mueller was just following up on the same source that fed the info to steele in the first place, and it was wrong?



if its legit it could be the one that finally takes down the don. But weve got nothing but mcclaskys reputation and anonymous sources

I've never even heard of McClatchy so I'm extremely skeptical at the moment. We shall see.

If it is true, this would be sweet vindication. This was one of the main rebuttals against the dossier... and the response from people was "hey, he could've just flown to another country and driven there".

This post was edited by IceMage on Apr 13 2018 05:48pm

I think wait and see on followup and cohens response. Article like this means either a fake news explosion and heads rolling, or the ton is no longer teflon.

also;



Cohen's passport's only european travel was into Italy on July 9th and out of Italy on July 17th, and USC confirmed him being in California with his son on August 29th on that baseball coach visit, and he's got the flight records proving he was in LA from August 23rd to the 27th when he flew to California. Then Cohen says he was in New York for the entire month of september, a window without travel proof.

So if this new revelation is accurate, Cohen could not have been in prague during his italy trip: That was in july, this says it was august or september. So that doesn't match up
That means for this to be accurate, Cohen had to have flown out of New York and into Europe, on some hitherto secret flight, possibly private jet or something, and then traveled from Germany into the Czech Republic. And he would have to be using a second, secret passport, because his first passport did not show any travel to Europe in that span. So there is some serious hurdles of missing evidence here- how did Cohen move between continents undetected, and if he did, how would he think he could lie about it without getting found out by Mueller, and how would it take this long to figure it out?

If its a real development its absolutely damning to Trump, but even taking a consciously open-minded approach, I gotta point out the significant holes yet to be filled in. And from what I can tell, there is no independent corroboration of this is there? If anyone sees it, please post, but I think every report is based upon McClatchey so if they were taken for a ride, the whole stack of dominos comes tumbling down

also lets not forget this:

https://twitter.com/jaketapper/status/819187673961287681

we did have proof that Michael Cohen was in prague in that time... a completely different michael cohen from a different country
its entirely plausible that today's revelation is just a repeat of that, and someone completely misinterpreted (or intentionally misrepresented) mueller's awareness of it.
and one of the big criticisms to debunk the steele dossier was that steele was using such second hand and googleable sources and rumors that he got duped into thinking those michael cohens were the same people

so my skept-o-meter is at an 8/10

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 13 2018 06:35pm

I'm skeptical as well, but they claim 2 sources. They claim they've been working on it for months. I'm not sure this is the kind of story that will be corroborated quickly, so we'll have to wait and see.

fugg wrong thread

This post was edited by Goomshill on Apr 13 2018 07:03pm

That's an oxymoron if I ever saw one