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Jun 13 2022 10:09am
Quote (excellence @ Jun 13 2022 10:21am)
translates to “tasty and that’s it” Lmao


"tasty and that's it" or "tasty, period", or something thereabouts.
Since they already had the supply lines, stores, equipment, workforce, everything already in place, it looks like all the management put their effort into was rebranding and renaming products lmao.
so now they have an app icon style logo and cut the 'mc' off everything in the menu, and their menu is conspicuously missing a big mac equivalent
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Jun 13 2022 10:12am
Quote (Goomshill @ 13 Jun 2022 19:09)
"tasty and that's it" or "tasty, period", or something thereabouts.
Since they already had the supply lines, stores, equipment, workforce, everything already in place, it looks like all the management put their effort into was rebranding and renaming products lmao.
so now they have an app icon style logo and cut the 'mc' off everything in the menu, and their menu is conspicuously missing a big mac equivalent


It's called Grand now (Big Mac).

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Quote (Goomshill @ Jun 13 2022 12:09pm)
"tasty and that's it" or "tasty, period", or something thereabouts.
Since they already had the supply lines, stores, equipment, workforce, everything already in place, it looks like all the management put their effort into was rebranding and renaming products lmao.
so now they have an app icon style logo and cut the 'mc' off everything in the menu, and their menu is conspicuously missing a big mac equivalent


I was told like 4 months ago that Russia is out of weapons and they will be starving begging for western aid, how is this possible?

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Jun 13 2022 12:21pm
While every pro-Russian shill is focusing on big macs, Russian military expert Michael Kofman doesn't think the worst of the sanctions, which are centered on advanced technologies, will bite until August/September time. It takes months to use up storage of semiconductors, high tech oil machinery, and so on. And we know Russia aren't importing them as imports have crashed due to sanctions - I actually posted this graphic on this thread a few days ago. From the start it was spelled out that sanctions were a medium - long term game, with oil sanctions not hurting Russia significantly until early next year, and Gas 2-3 years down the line

If people were jumping to early conclusions with incomplete and one-sided information in the first phase of the war, then perhaps that should be a warning to not presume sanctions have failed while still in the early phase. It's not exactly in the Russian media's interest to show shortages and economic fallout from sanctions, they would rather run stories on big macs
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Quote (dro94 @ Jun 13 2022 08:21pm)
While every pro-Russian shill is focusing on big macs, Russian military expert Michael Kofman doesn't think the worst of the sanctions, which are centered on advanced technologies, will bite until August/September time. It takes months to use up storage of semiconductors, high tech oil machinery, and so on. And we know Russia aren't importing them as imports have crashed due to sanctions - I actually posted this graphic on this thread a few days ago. From the start it was spelled out that sanctions were a medium - long term game, with oil sanctions not hurting Russia significantly until early next year, and Gas 2-3 years down the line

If people were jumping to early conclusions with incomplete and one-sided information in the first phase of the war, then perhaps that should be a warning to not presume sanctions have failed while still in the early phase. It's not exactly in the Russian media's interest to show shortages and economic fallout from sanctions, they would rather run stories on big macs


i mean the same is true for places like germany, the upcoming autumn and winter might become even rougher

energy is one thing and even ignoring that oil sells like warm bread (india is now buying russias oil), the real mess starts when we know what the next harvest looks like

better pray for good conditions to make up a bit for the lack of fertiliser, fuel etc
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Jun 13 2022 01:24pm
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ Jun 13 2022 06:48pm)
i mean the same is true for places like germany, the upcoming autumn and winter might become even rougher

energy is one thing and even ignoring that oil sells like warm bread (india is now buying russias oil), the real mess starts when we know what the next harvest looks like

better pray for good conditions to make up a bit for the lack of fertiliser, fuel etc


Germany is a unique case, there isn't an economy half their size as dependent on Russia for oil and gas, in part due to Merkel's strategic errors of 1) shutting now nuclear power plants too quickly, and 2) intertwining their economy with Russia's across many sectors. Replacing oil from Russia is mostly straight forward, replacing gas is not. The US will export a lot more LNG to Germany, Qatar will from 2023 too, but a big increase in renewables will need to bridge the gap and that won't happen in Germany for many years. So 25%+ of their gas will be bought from Russia 3 years from now unfortunately. Other countries in Europe are not in Germany's position, not even Italy or the Baltic states
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Quote (dro94 @ Jun 13 2022 09:24pm)
Germany is a unique case, there isn't an economy half their size as dependent on Russia for oil and gas, in part due to Merkel's strategic errors of 1) shutting now nuclear power plants too quickly, and 2) intertwining their economy with Russia's across many sectors. Replacing oil from Russia is mostly straight forward, replacing gas is not. The US will export a lot more LNG to Germany, Qatar will from 2023 too, but a big increase in renewables will need to bridge the gap and that won't happen in Germany for many years. So 25%+ of their gas will be bought from Russia 3 years from now unfortunately. Other countries in Europe are not in Germany's position, not even Italy or the Baltic states


LNG cant replace a full pipeline, iirc we are the largest natural gas importer in the world and you would need a six figure number of ship deliveries to replace that

i am the first person to shit on merkel and friends when i can and even with all the putin shills in her government and especially the social democrats it all made sense

europe and the EU expect us to be the labor camp of the continent and produce all the good stuff, but cry when we need energy for that

getting cheap pipeline gas made sense despite the ridiculous decision to quit nuclear and try to rely on wind/sun that often dont produce anything for weeks on end here in germany

so which is it now? shall we continue to endure low wages, high living costs and the worlds highest taxes to provide money and things for broke shitholes or do we all want to go down?

you can only choose one
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Quote (dro94 @ Jun 13 2022 08:21pm)
While every pro-Russian shill is focusing on big macs, Russian military expert Michael Kofman doesn't think the worst of the sanctions, which are centered on advanced technologies, will bite until August/September time. It takes months to use up storage of semiconductors, high tech oil machinery, and so on. And we know Russia aren't importing them as imports have crashed due to sanctions - I actually posted this graphic on this thread a few days ago. From the start it was spelled out that sanctions were a medium - long term game, with oil sanctions not hurting Russia significantly until early next year, and Gas 2-3 years down the line

If people were jumping to early conclusions with incomplete and one-sided information in the first phase of the war, then perhaps that should be a warning to not presume sanctions have failed while still in the early phase. It's not exactly in the Russian media's interest to show shortages and economic fallout from sanctions, they would rather run stories on big macs


Sanctions aint gonna stop Russia and worse the sanctions are hitting us just as hard. I mean the damage is spread over all Western countries involved but add that all up ^^

Secondly, lets take North Korea as an example. Did the sanctions work yes or no?
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Jun 13 2022 02:10pm
Quote (Djunior @ Jun 13 2022 07:40pm)
Sanctions aint gonna stop Russia and worse the sanctions are hitting us just as hard. I mean the damage is spread over all Western countries involved but add that all up ^^

Secondly, lets take North Korea as an example. Did the sanctions work yes or no?


Sanctions won't stop them directly, but it severely harms their war effort over the medium - long term when they can't import the technology to maintain and replace military equipment

We're not being hit just as hard. Russia's GDP will contract 10-15% this year, in the West we don't even know if we'll go into a recession, and if we do it'll be a small contraction. Inflation is mainly caused by money printer go brrrr when there was no demand, followed by a lack of supply when demand rebounded. The war in Ukraine and resulting sanctions on Russia are contributors that exacerbate existing macro problems, but they are not the cause

North Korea is a good example actually. Sanctions didn't stop them from developing nukes, but they severely impacted the DPRK's economy, which meant they couldn't invest as much into their nuclear program. They couldn't import key materials as easily and had to get creative in the black market. It took North Korea 11 years to test Hwasong-15, if there was a free market they'd have been able to do the tests a lot earlier. Hardly a silver bullet but arguably worth it...now imagine if their foreign currency reserves were frozen and they had no money to pay their military?
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Sanctions won't stop them directly, but it severely harms their war effort over the medium - long term when they can't import the technology to maintain and replace military equipment

We're not being hit just as hard. Russia's GDP will contract 10-15% this year, in the West we don't even know if we'll go into a recession, and if we do it'll be a small contraction. Inflation is mainly caused by money printer go brrrr when there was no demand, followed by a lack of supply when demand rebounded. The war in Ukraine and resulting sanctions on Russia are contributors that exacerbate existing macro problems, but they are not the cause

North Korea is a good example actually. Sanctions didn't stop them from developing nukes, but they severely impacted the DPRK's economy, which meant they couldn't invest as much into their nuclear program. They couldn't import key materials as easily and had to get creative in the black market. It took North Korea 11 years to test Hwasong-15, if there was a free market they'd have been able to do the tests a lot earlier. Hardly a silver bullet but arguably worth it...now imagine if their foreign currency reserves were frozen and they had no money to pay their military?


We (the West) don't understand that countries like NK don't give a damn. They don't care about their population, NK gets it's foreign currency by sending an army of slave workers abroad that have to send everything they earn to NK or their families are fucked. And like you said, they got their nukes. The sanctions didn't work.

Russia is very similar. Putin's regime isn't going to give up. They'll never give up Crimea and they don't care if the population suffers. They got 6K nukes, we can only watch and hope the sanctions will make the Russians bend the knee and pull out of Ukraine. It's futile.
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