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Jan 26 2022 11:03am
Quote (Skinned @ 26 Jan 2022 17:42)
From my perspective it was a bloodbath but nothing any politicians could do would have changed the way it played out much. It is like trying to legislate out of a hurricane. Nov-Dec 2020 was just absurd in our neck of the words. Thank god we are so far past that. At this point treatments are there, vaccines are there, people can make informed choices. The vaccine is about protecting individuals from death, it doesn't prevent the spread of the disease, you can have it and spread it with the vaccine but the vaccine prevents being hospitalized, disabled, vented, die, etc. It reduces the severity of it for you but not those you give it to. It is a personal choice about personal protection at this point and it should be treated like a personal healthcare decision, like a flu shot, like an abortion, etc. Bodily autonomy is the value of which I speak. If it becomes part of public school and military required vaccinations then it seems like it will be forced in those cases. But it is a volunteer military and there are plenty of militias to train you (lol) and you can find charter schools or religious schools to accommodate you more than likely. Public schools are authoritarian it is what it is.

Britain finally did right by its people by opening up. This is as good as it is gonna get in terms of public safety.


Politicians only have a voter score in perspective, the ones in charge prefer to avoid the subject because more deaths is never good, and they can even be blamed for it (not being though enough, or simply being amalgamated with it).
The other side was more likely against vaccines or restrictions so they are closing their mouth.

Quote (justhackitup @ 26 Jan 2022 17:30)
I’m guessing importing 10,000 infected per month and dispersing those people around the country is a bad idea? I live by a border and the caravans are not vaccinated. 50% test positive and also have comorbidities like poor health and diseases. Gonna be hard to get to immunity with that going on :banana:
This will never end.


Some are very happy to recruit them and are not punished for it. Usually these people are keeping a low profile, they will more likely use masks and not going in crowed places.

Quote (OhHoney @ 26 Jan 2022 17:33)
2nd hand smoke could be seen as the "contagious part" causing cancer. Same with obese families passing the torch to their kids and so on.


This extend for years and is a mostly a political issue (ie: fat food regulation, education etc). A virus spreads fast and can be massively contained if everyone participate.
We should NEVER forget that without restriction and vaccines this shit covid could have killed much, much more people (5-10 times more) and so on it would be by FAR the n°1 death cause.
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Jan 26 2022 11:09am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jan 26 2022 12:03pm)
Politicians only have a voter score in perspective, the ones in charge prefer to avoid the subject because more deaths is never good, and they can even be blamed for it (not being though enough, or simply being amalgamated with it).
The other side was more likely against vaccines or restrictions so they are closing their mouth.



Some are very happy to recruit them and are not punished for it. Usually these people are keeping a low profile, they will more likely use masks and not going in crowed places.



This extend for years and is a mostly a political issue (ie: fat food regulation, education etc). A virus spreads fast and can be massively contained if everyone participate.
We should NEVER forget that without restriction and vaccines this shit covid could have killed much, much more people (5-10 times more) and so on it would be by FAR the n°1 death cause.


If the virus was that deadly, they would not exempt many different groups for various reasons. We'd all be FORCED to take multiple vaccines. They would not open borders to non-vaccinated illegals dispersing them around the country. They would not OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE schools/theatres/public gathering. It would be closed until the issue is solved.

This virus can be dangerous to people with bad health, comorbidities, people at risks or people who were unlucky and got it worst but most people will brush it off.

Fastfood, smoking, living inside, stress, lack of exercise, bad sleeping routine and bad diets are more dangerous than Covid.

This post was edited by OhHoney on Jan 26 2022 11:11am
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Jan 26 2022 11:09am
Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jan 24 2022 04:38pm)
Oh, all this seems sad... Let me remind you what happened exactly;

First you stalked me for almost no reason on pard for weeks or months. acting big. Then some day you posted your own POE account on d2jsp (through a POB link) while selling your whole gear, anyone could have figured out btw.
At this point, since i mentionned it in the topic and later in few posts, you stalked me and reported systematically all my posts like no tomorrow, all that because of your stupid mistake. Your entire fault. Even 15 years old d2jsp kids are not doing such mistake.

Finally you changed your own account name on POE website! Since this time you are in a complete enraged mode against me on PARD.

Screwed for ever, maybe more. Now please fade away, the discussion is over.


A PoB link isn't an account. You stalked hundreds of accounts on poe.ninja specifically looking for mine. Anybody COULD do it, but nobody is quite pathetic, lonely, or loserish enough to do so. Except you. The saddest part is, you tried to pretend to be a tough guy, but INSTANTLY crawled back in your hole and didn't dare say single WORD once a mod PM'd you. Just like that, your cowardly nature was shown. This is why you will take EVERY vaccine they tell you to. You're a coward at heart.

I get you're mad I outsmarted you since the Trump campaign days but get a grip. What you're doing is just pathetic. Btw, you were the one who cried to mod recently, not me. Truth hurts, huh?
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Jan 26 2022 11:23am
Quote (OhHoney @ 26 Jan 2022 18:09)
If the virus was that deadly, they would not exempt many different groups for various reasons. We'd all be FORCED to take multiple vaccines. They would not open borders to non-vaccinated illegals dispersing them around the country. They would not OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE schools/theatres/public gathering. It would be closed until the issue is solved.

This virus can be dangerous to people with bad health, comorbidities, people at risks or people who were unlucky and got it worst but most people will brush it off.

Fastfood, smoking, living inside, stress, lack of exercise, bad sleeping routine and bad diets are more dangerous than Covid.


For sure it could have been a virus with higher mortality rate, but even with 1-2% (alpha, beta, delta) the whole system would have collapse without restrictions, because we dont have just a flat 1-2% of population that is vanishing without side-effects: we have alot of people sick who cant go work, long term effects (long covid), and healthcare completely saturated that would cause an exponential killing. Politics cannot afford that, except few grilled ones, that will not even being able to impose their "view" (bolsonaro)
For 1 dead you have 10 people with a real trauma. It's the crippled aspect of the problem, same happened during ww1 and it was a real pain for society.

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Quote (Saucisson6000 @ Jan 26 2022 12:23pm)
For sure it could have been a virus with higher mortality rate, but even with 1-2% (alpha, beta, delta) the whole system would have collapse without restrictions, because dont have just a flat 1-2% of population that is vanishing without side-effects: we have alot of people sick who cant go work, long term effects (long covid), and healthcare completely saturated that would cause and exponential killing. Politics cannot afford that, except few grilled ones, that will not even being able to impose their "view" (bolsonaro)
For 1 dead you have 10 people with a real trauma. It's the crippled aspect of the problem, same happened during ww1 and it was a real pain for society.


In Quebec, they did a 150 millions budget cut right before Covid . They fired nurses and doctors who worked crazy hours during the first two years vaccine free without getting sick but were fired to convince us that we HAVE to take all the vaccines then wonder why our health system collapsed. They started to blame the 12% non-vaccinated instead of pointing out the obvious [budget cut, firing so many nurses and doctors] People woke up to the truth and want Legault out.

https://www.change.org/p/citoyens-du-qu%C3%A9bec-destitution-de-fran%C3%A7ois-legault 300,000 signatures already.

Truckers are fighting for our freedom in Ontario,Quebec

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/1856707/hundreds-of-truckers-headed-to-ottawa-in-freedom-rally-convoy-against-vaccine-mandate [there is way more now than two days ago]

In the west, they will remove covid passport by the end of June and the East will probably do too.

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Jan 26 2022 11:39am
Quote (OhHoney @ Jan 26 2022 11:09am)
If the virus was that deadly, they would not exempt many different groups for various reasons. We'd all be FORCED to take multiple vaccines. They would not open borders to non-vaccinated illegals dispersing them around the country. They would not OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE schools/theatres/public gathering. It would be closed until the issue is solved.

This virus can be dangerous to people with bad health, comorbidities, people at risks or people who were unlucky and got it worst but most people will brush it off.

Fastfood, smoking, living inside, stress, lack of exercise, bad sleeping routine and bad diets are more dangerous than Covid.


could you stop making multis literally no one wants you here
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Jan 26 2022 11:46am
Quote (OhHoney @ 26 Jan 2022 18:32)
In Quebec, they did a 150 millions budget cut right before Covid . They fired nurses and doctors who worked crazy hours during the first two years vaccine free without getting sick but were fired to convince us that we HAVE to take all the vaccines then wonder why our health system collapsed. They started to blame the 12% non-vaccinated instead of pointing out the obvious [budget cut, firing so many nurses and doctors] People woke up to the truth and want Legault out.

https://www.change.org/p/citoyens-du-qu%C3%A9bec-destitution-de-fran%C3%A7ois-legault 300,000 signatures already.

Truckers are fighting for our freedom in Ontario,Quebec

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/1856707/hundreds-of-truckers-headed-to-ottawa-in-freedom-rally-convoy-against-vaccine-mandate [there is way more now than two days ago]

In the west, they will remove covid passport by the end of June and the East will probably do too.


Your healthcare budget is several billions no ? how can 150M change that much of things ?
They fired the few nurses and doctors who refused to get the vaccine ? Curious if there's many of them.
Online petition doesn't have much value, i see that this François Legault is very popular. Center right hu ?
GL with that
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Jan 26 2022 11:50am
Most of the covid unit at my local hospital is mostly vaxxed people with omicron that had zero symptoms and are in for stroke/ heart failure/ heart attacks / suicidal thoughts that just randomly happened to test +. No fever no shortness of breath, cough or sniffles etc

The Only one in ICU has half of one of his lung missing , copd, and a clotting disorder and had a sinus surgery 1 month ago that he got pneumonia afterwards. Hes fully vaxxed too
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Jan 26 2022 11:56am
Quote (OhHoney @ Jan 26 2022 09:09am)
If the virus was that deadly, they would not exempt many different groups for various reasons. We'd all be FORCED to take multiple vaccines. They would not open borders to non-vaccinated illegals dispersing them around the country. They would not OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE/OPEN/CLOSE schools/theatres/public gathering. It would be closed until the issue is solved.

This virus can be dangerous to people with bad health, comorbidities, people at risks or people who were unlucky and got it worst but most people will brush it off.

Fastfood, smoking, living inside, stress, lack of exercise, bad sleeping routine and bad diets are more dangerous than Covid.


Quote (OhHoney @ Jan 26 2022 09:32am)
In Quebec, they did a 150 millions budget cut right before Covid . They fired nurses and doctors who worked crazy hours during the first two years vaccine free without getting sick but were fired to convince us that we HAVE to take all the vaccines then wonder why our health system collapsed. They started to blame the 12% non-vaccinated instead of pointing out the obvious [budget cut, firing so many nurses and doctors] People woke up to the truth and want Legault out.

https://www.change.org/p/citoyens-du-qu%C3%A9bec-destitution-de-fran%C3%A7ois-legault 300,000 signatures already.

Truckers are fighting for our freedom in Ontario,Quebec

https://ici.radio-canada.ca/rci/en/news/1856707/hundreds-of-truckers-headed-to-ottawa-in-freedom-rally-convoy-against-vaccine-mandate [there is way more now than two days ago]

In the west, they will remove covid passport by the end of June and the East will probably do too.



So tell me how this freedom is working exactly? The people are winning by grocery shelves becoming more empty and people having less food? Is it a gluttony problem?
what is the end game from truckers not deliving good and services? Is this a surplus of idle truckers flexing? genuinely want to know because as far as i can tell you win by literally not listening & continuing the necessary functions of those services.
the Rally would seemingly be helping the elite by depriving people of food which would synergize w/ their mandates?

also, smoking helps to cure covid, smoking cigarettes or the formaldehyde in the paper would be what causes cancer.
Man survived for centuries from fire and smoke in fact its the omission of a clean fire and smoke that stemmed the cancer epidemic because fire and smoke wards off all predators including germs.

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Quote (KRR @ Jan 26 2022 12:50pm)
Most of the covid unit at my local hospital is mostly vaxxed people with omicron that had zero symptoms and are in for stroke/ heart failure/ heart attacks / suicidal thoughts that just randomly happened to test +. No fever no shortness of breath, cough or sniffles etc

The Only one in ICU has half of one of his lung missing , copd, and a clotting disorder and had a sinus surgery 1 month ago that he got pneumonia afterwards. Hes fully vaxxed too


That sucks. All vaccinated? The non-vaccinated people i know never got sick and work full time jobs with the public. It's losing traction fast which is why they are thinking bout removing the restrictions around the country to focus on climate change which will bring restrictions of it's own.
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