Quote (addone @ May 8 2023 06:46pm)
Who made God?
Genesis 1:1
In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.
John 1:1-5
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.
Quote (Modulok2405 @ May 8 2023 07:11pm)
Its not wizardry, its theories. Something you cant understand for unknown reasons. Theories dont come out of the blue, they are supported by evidence.
Also no scientist ever said "nothing exploded and made everything". Thats not a theory. Before you give answers like this one be sure to enjoy some education.
Questioning the bible is no way to become a christian because no one would be christian then. If you'd seriously question the bible, you'd have abandonded it a long time ago. There is no method to verify or even minimally support the extraordinary written claims in it evidentially.
Alright, let's question the Bible then. Let's put this passage to the test shall we?
Luke 16:19-31
The Rich man and Lazarus
“There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.
“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’
“But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’
“He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’
“Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’
“‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’
“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”
Now you heard it. Did you read the bold claim made? If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced
even if someone rises from the dead.How truthful is such a claim? I remember long ago with one of these debates this very topic came up. It was said that some people had drowned and saw the Lord Jesus telling them their time has not yet come. Shortly after they were resuscitated and came back. Sounds pretty convincing at first but the rebuttal has always been that other people from other religions who also died and came back claimed to have seen their god and not Jesus.
Abraham said to the Rich Man that his brothers have Moses and the Prophets. Same with us. We also have Moses and the Prophets. It is they who we should listen to.