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May 7 2023 10:24pm
Quote (addone @ May 7 2023 05:30am)
My eyes what am I reading?...
Just because something can't be explained yet doesn't automatically make it magic... you never disappoint when it comes to lowering the bar. The clown gods look up to your infinite wisdom.


just because something cant be explained yet doesnt mean nothing exploded and made everything no matter how cock sure you are about it.



Quote (Modulok2405 @ May 7 2023 05:54am)
Science is not wizardry. Of course it fails to explain thousands of things. Science is a process. Science is the reason why you can type your verbal diarrhia in this forum. Its the reason for everything you own, even your bible.

You religious guys are the only ones who are "cocksure" about anything. No matter what the question is, your answer is always god and thats it. You guys are fuckin sure about it. Cock sure so to say. Always. No religious person questions the bible or god. Ever.

Science on the other hand is never sure of anything at all. Science is constant doubting and questioning cause thats the only way to detect, develop, evolve and ultimately explain things. There is no other reliable way to truth and progress known to man.

Science always starts at the bottom and doubts and questions, uses trial and error methods, fails and fails again. Questioning and trying its way up to some reliable theories and maybe in the end breakthrough finds and solutions. Science is nothing but hard work done by hard working dedicated people.

Religion never questions anything because religion always begins with the solution. Religion says god and works its way downwards trying to explain and justify what they originally claimed - which of course is not a reliable way to ever find truth and therefor always fails.


antitheist science is wizardry, nothing explodes and makes everything. the creationist says there was a intellect behind it all.

if antitheists were not a "cock sure" people they would be some kind of agnostic. btw, questioning the bible is how one can become christian.

thats not how it is even if thats how its supposed to be.

bullcit. scientists start with ideas and decide what they like. then they start "proving " stuff.

no science troubles scripture no matter how cock sure you are about it.
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1 Timothy 6:20
“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:”
King James Version (KJV)






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May 8 2023 12:03am
Quote (TiStuff @ May 8 2023 04:24pm)
just because something cant be explained yet doesnt mean nothing exploded and made everything no matter how cock sure you are about it.





antitheist science is wizardry, nothing explodes and makes everything. the creationist says there was a intellect behind it all.

if antitheists were not a "cock sure" people they would be some kind of agnostic. btw, questioning the bible is how one can become christian.

thats not how it is even if thats how its supposed to be.

bullcit. scientists start with ideas and decide what they like. then they start "proving " stuff.

no science troubles scripture no matter how cock sure you are about it.
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for the faith believers of their monkey mind

1 Timothy 6:20
“O Timothy, keep that which is committed to thy trust, avoiding profane and vain babblings, and oppositions of science falsely so called:”
King James Version (KJV)


It's called a theory with supporting evidence. Not one person has made a definitive claim you are trying to strawman again with your newfound COCK sure catchphrase.
Literally using profanity and babbling.
Yes your God is that dumb he cannot detect intentionally misspelled profanity and insults, way to show your God how you Tistuff can outsmart him!
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May 8 2023 12:16am
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It's called a theory with supporting evidence. Not one person has made a definitive claim you are trying to strawman again with your newfound COCK sure catchphrase.
Literally using profanity and babbling.
Yes your God is that dumb he cannot detect intentionally misspelled profanity and insults, way to show your God how you Tistuff can outsmart him!


antitheists have always been about chit science and have propagated the biggest frauds from piltdown man to "junk" genes. passed on as legit till science caught up with the frauds.

hucksters once celebrated as grand men of science


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Quote (Modulok2405 @ May 7 2023 10:54pm)
Science is not wizardry. Of course it fails to explain thousands of things. Science is a process. Science is the reason why you can type your verbal diarrhia in this forum. Its the reason for everything you own, even your bible.

You religious guys are the only ones who are "cocksure" about anything. No matter what the question is, your answer is always god and thats it. You guys are fuckin sure about it. Cock sure so to say. Always. No religious person questions the bible or god. Ever.

Science on the other hand is never sure of anything at all. Science is constant doubting and questioning cause thats the only way to detect, develop, evolve and ultimately explain things. There is no other reliable way to truth and progress known to man.

Science always starts at the bottom and doubts and questions, uses trial and error methods, fails and fails again. Questioning and trying its way up to some reliable theories and maybe in the end breakthrough finds and solutions. Science is nothing but hard work done by hard working dedicated people.

Religion never questions anything because religion always begins with the solution. Religion says god and works its way downwards trying to explain and justify what they originally claimed - which of course is not a reliable way to ever find truth and therefor always fails.


Top 10 questions:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67022928&f=125&o=0#p449254948

Revelation Series:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=71850688&f=125&o=0#p483628339

10 Prophecies fulfilled in 1948:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=525625079#p525625079

Snippet of calculation in the worldwide flood:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75028490&f=119&p=507734451#p507734451

These were pictures of the Genealogy of Jesus:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=531333715#p531333715

So tell me again how no religious person ever questions the Bible or God, ever?

Matthew 7:7-8

Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.

Quote (addone @ May 8 2023 09:25am)
No lol science existed thousands years ago all the way back to egyptian/Mesopotamian cultures. The main point of science is to question and to test out the hypothesis. The primary goal of religion is to predetermine a result and to either look at only the things that support it and to reject anything which says the contrary. The latter creates delusion and replaces thinking with propaganda.
Newton was a heretical Christian (Christian on paper but a scientist in practice) and his proof only contradicted religion and his own belief system. He literally self owned and paved a way for thinking differently about the laws of motion and gravity instead of being told by Christian zealots that God held everything together.


https://i.ibb.co/30n52bQ/images-2023-05-08-T111731-241.jpg
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https://i.ibb.co/NZFHx2t/images-2023-05-08-T112739-884.jpg


Aww, you found more pics on the internet. Is that all you can do now?

I see no competition with Science and Religion. It's like comparing apples and oranges.
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Top 10 questions:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=67022928&f=125&o=0#p449254948

Revelation Series:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=71850688&f=125&o=0#p483628339

10 Prophecies fulfilled in 1948:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=525625079#p525625079

Snippet of calculation in the worldwide flood:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=75028490&f=119&p=507734451#p507734451

These were pictures of the Genealogy of Jesus:
https://forums.d2jsp.org/topic.php?t=73889562&f=119&p=531333715#p531333715

So tell me again how no religious person ever questions the Bible or God, ever?

Matthew 7:7-8

Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened.



Aww, you found more pics on the internet. Is that all you can do now?

I see no competition with Science and Religion. It's like comparing apples and oranges.


Who made God?
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May 8 2023 03:11am
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antitheist science is wizardry, nothing explodes and makes everything. the creationist says there was a intellect behind it all.

if antitheists were not a "cock sure" people they would be some kind of agnostic. btw, questioning the bible is how one can become christian.


Its not wizardry, its theories. Something you cant understand for unknown reasons. Theories dont come out of the blue, they are supported by evidence.

Also no scientist ever said "nothing exploded and made everything". Thats not a theory. Before you give answers like this one be sure to enjoy some education.

Questioning the bible is no way to become a christian because no one would be christian then. If you'd seriously question the bible, you'd have abandonded it a long time ago. There is no method to verify or even minimally support the extraordinary written claims in it evidentially.

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Who made God?


Man

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Man


Apparently it's not obvious to our highly esteemed theologians. I can already feel them getting triggered trying to process the question. :thumbsup:

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Its not wizardry, its theories. Something you cant understand for unknown reasons. Theories dont come out of the blue, they are supported by evidence.

Also no scientist ever said "nothing exploded and made everything". Thats not a theory. Before you give answers like this one be sure to enjoy some education.

Questioning the bible is no way to become a christian because no one would be christian then. If you'd seriously question the bible, you'd have abandonded it a long time ago. There is no method to verify or even minimally support the extraordinary written claims in it evidentially.


that man came from a monkey was/is pure imagination.

ya, they like to say it expanded lol big whoop

then start a scripture class lets see how it goes.

Quote (addone @ May 8 2023 02:27am)
Apparently it's not obvious to our highly esteemed theologians. I can already feel them getting triggered trying to process the question. :thumbsup:


The bible is a collection of 66 books written over a period of approximately 1400-1500 years in 3 different languages across 3 continents by over 40 different authors from every walk of life (from a kings throne to prison cell). Most of whom never knew each other and many of which died a horrible death rather than deny their faith. With no historical errors or contradictions, coming together in one single unified harmonious message.

The creation, fall and redemption
Gods universal love for all humanity
A common message of salvation is available to all who repent of their sins and commit to following God with all their heart, soul, strength and mind.
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May 8 2023 05:56am
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Who made God?


Genesis 1:1

In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

John 1:1-5

In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was with God in the beginning. Through him all things were made; without him nothing was made that has been made. In him was life, and that life was the light of all mankind. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness has not overcome it.

Quote (Modulok2405 @ May 8 2023 07:11pm)
Its not wizardry, its theories. Something you cant understand for unknown reasons. Theories dont come out of the blue, they are supported by evidence.

Also no scientist ever said "nothing exploded and made everything". Thats not a theory. Before you give answers like this one be sure to enjoy some education.

Questioning the bible is no way to become a christian because no one would be christian then. If you'd seriously question the bible, you'd have abandonded it a long time ago. There is no method to verify or even minimally support the extraordinary written claims in it evidentially.


Alright, let's question the Bible then. Let's put this passage to the test shall we?

Luke 16:19-31

The Rich man and Lazarus

“There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.

“The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’

“But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’

“He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’

“Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’

“‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’

“He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’”

Now you heard it. Did you read the bold claim made? If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.

How truthful is such a claim? I remember long ago with one of these debates this very topic came up. It was said that some people had drowned and saw the Lord Jesus telling them their time has not yet come. Shortly after they were resuscitated and came back. Sounds pretty convincing at first but the rebuttal has always been that other people from other religions who also died and came back claimed to have seen their god and not Jesus.

Abraham said to the Rich Man that his brothers have Moses and the Prophets. Same with us. We also have Moses and the Prophets. It is they who we should listen to.
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