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Mar 6 2022 10:36am
Quote (Goomshill @ 6 Mar 2022 09:35)
Russia is going to win. Ukraine was in Russias sphere of influence for all but 8 of the past 100 years. It only left by a coup that overthrew the democratically elected government and split the country. Why was returning bloodlessly and minimizing harm not an option? The end result is the same. The difference is a piles of rubble on top of the bodies. And a new cold war. All the risks of armageddon, civil repression, paranoia, tolerance for war crimes by regressive allies. How many casualties, refugees and burnt out cities do we need to arrive at the same end point?




This is revisionist history. You are one-sidedly accepting the Russian narrative. The reality is that Ukraine was a polarized, split country since at least the Orange Revolution in 2004, that Yanukovich (Putin's man in Ukraine) won the 2010 election under a cloud of controversy and allegations of manipulation, and that there were all sorts of fuckery and outside interference by foreign intelligence from all sides (Russian and Western) in 2014.

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Mar 6 2022 10:50am
Quote (JohnnyMcCoy @ 6 Mar 2022 14:42)
at this point zelensky is trying to produce ugly pictures for the rest of the world on purpose

he has every right to panic and be upset, but calling for what would basically the next great war and sending civilians into the fight is just too much

yesterday he made another statement saying that every additional death would be the fault of the west

thats a weird way to talk to the people who provide massive assistance


Yeah, I'm also starting to get annoyed by the tone Zelensky is striking when talking to his allies. But like I said: for now, I'm willing to cut the desperate man some slack.

And yes, we obviously shouldn't take the Ukrainian words and reports as gospel, they are of course also spreading propaganda and spinning reality to fit their desired narrative, just like the Russians do. Still, at the end of the day, it's crystal clear that the Russians are the aggressors in this conflict.
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Mar 6 2022 10:53am
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in the old black and white movies, where they were set in afrika, the leaders of the tribes were always white.
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Mar 6 2022 10:55am
Quote (Goomshill @ 6 Mar 2022 15:47)
China doesn't want an empire, it wants stability. For Ukrainians, there isn't such a choice. They can either become Russia's bitch again or be bombed to hell and become Russia's bitch again. The prospect of quagmires and instability hasn't dissuaded America nor Russia from a myriad of invasions in the past few decades, only the threat of confrontation with other world powers has kept that peace, peace through actual military security. Ukraine never had that, and the west refused to give it. Our only willingness to come to the defense of the Ukrainians is by ensuring their cities get blown up and citizens becoming either refugees or massacred instead of a bloodless takeover. Ukraine could have had its regime changed in 2022 like it did in 2014, without chaos and war. What's the benefit for the common citizen to take up the desperate ethno-nationalist cause against foreign imperialists, if that cause is doomed?


By fighting, they will at least become the bitch of a much weaker Russia. Driving up the price the Russians have to pay for their aggression is the right thing to do. Imho, Ukraine has not yet hit the inflection point where the price the Ukrainian civilians would have to pay for continuing the fight exceeds the damage that doing so inflicts on the Russians. I'm with you, however, that Zelensky should surrender to save his people if / when this point is reached. But we're not there yet.
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Mar 6 2022 11:33am
Quote (Subwoofer @ Mar 6 2022 05:12pm)
You're blaming the foreign legion for France in it's entirety's stupid colonialism. It collapsed for a reason.


I'm pointing out nobody should applaud this "elite gg Western legion" ;)

The truth sucks I guess
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Mar 6 2022 11:41am
Quote (Skinned @ Mar 6 2022 01:44pm)
Ukrainian women are saying that Russian soldiers are raping them. You are calling them liars. Noted.

America has never invaded a Democracy. No free society is under threat of the United States.

You forgot to mention Imperial Japan, Nazi Germany, Communist Korea and Vietnam, Philippines, Spanish occupied Cuba.

Some of those countries benefitted greatly and are now free societies. Cuba went its own way. North and South Korea the same, one went with Russia/China, one with us. Which one would you rather be born a member of?

Our soldiers are better than theirs because they are free volunteers and given elite nutrition, training, and equipment. There are other elite military orders, French Foreign Legion, Sikh warriors, etc, but they are men who want to be a part of an order and not forced to do something against their will like these poor Russian slaves in Ukraine made to fight for Putin. And to be clear, a conscript is a slave.


asumptions based on nothing, never evidence, never sources from you


And We Know: Politicians calling for KILLINGS! Mass of Humanity Waking UP! Ukraine, PUTIN & PAIN! PRAY!
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Quote (darkhead69 @ Mar 6 2022 09:41am)
asumptions based on nothing, never evidence, never sources from you


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8dQQgv-nVUY


Gatta take your ged again huh.

Imagine not understanding the most basic of basic american history.
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Quote (ferdia @ Mar 6 2022 05:53pm)
in the old black and white movies, where they were set in afrika, the leaders of the tribes were always white.


Back when they didn't have enough black actors?
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