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lf we prioritized lives at any cost the majority of the world would be under one form of imperial rule or another. A majority of Ukrainians don't want to be lackeys to a failing petrostate. The only way to avoid that is to fight. When the costs of invasion are made to be prohibitively high, we end up in an ultimately more peaceful world.

Can you imagine what a mistake it would be if this invasion went off without a hitch, and China drew the conclusion that Taiwan was similarly within reach? We'll all by dying on the beaches of Okinawa.


China doesn't want an empire, it wants stability. For Ukrainians, there isn't such a choice. They can either become Russia's bitch again or be bombed to hell and become Russia's bitch again. The prospect of quagmires and instability hasn't dissuaded America nor Russia from a myriad of invasions in the past few decades, only the threat of confrontation with other world powers has kept that peace, peace through actual military security. Ukraine never had that, and the west refused to give it. Our only willingness to come to the defense of the Ukrainians is by ensuring their cities get blown up and citizens becoming either refugees or massacred instead of a bloodless takeover. Ukraine could have had its regime changed in 2022 like it did in 2014, without chaos and war. What's the benefit for the common citizen to take up the desperate ethno-nationalist cause against foreign imperialists, if that cause is doomed?
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French foreign legion used to accept anyone fit for duty with no questions asked. Reportedly it's where German war criminals went after WW2 to evade capture. Mercenaries, murderers and all kind of shady individuals that were running from the law ended up in the foreign legion.

Time for you to do your homework buddy

edit: Talking about US' meddling in sovereign countries' foreign affairs. We're the worst of the worst lol


You have to be very tough and there is a vetting process that is difficult. You wouldn't be able to make it.

It's what they consider fit for duty is much higher than your militia guy for example.


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Hahaha

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Hot breakfast with coffee in the middle of the woods somewhere is impressive to me, even if they are trays of the t rations or whatever with the powdered eggs and grey sausage. I bet some of those russian guys would literally kill for some of that.

We would just stuff so much food with us. Each tank was like a commissary.

Its lowest bidder in a corrupt system, we spend a lot of cash for a lot of cool stuff. I hate the ARs though.


We had it so good in the Navy. 3 hot meals and a bed, 365 days a year. Coffee available 24 hours a day. The ship's store was only open during business hours, but you didn't leave home port without a good stash of gedunk anyways. We had a Russian Helix (Ka-31) fly onto our ship from the Admiral Kuznetsov (Soviet era carrier, and sister ship to the Chinese Liaoning) for a tour, and I watched these dudes dump fresh Benjamins (possibly counterfeit) in the ship's store buying American shit, especially candy.

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Quote (Goomshill @ Mar 6 2022 02:47pm)
China doesn't want an empire, it wants stability. For Ukrainians, there isn't such a choice. They can either become Russia's bitch again or be bombed to hell and become Russia's bitch again. The prospect of quagmires and instability hasn't dissuaded America nor Russia from a myriad of invasions in the past few decades, only the threat of confrontation with other world powers has kept that peace, peace through actual military security. Ukraine never had that, and the west refused to give it. Our only willingness to come to the defense of the Ukrainians is by ensuring their cities get blown up and citizens becoming either refugees or massacred instead of a bloodless takeover. Ukraine could have had its regime changed in 2022 like it did in 2014, without chaos and war. What's the benefit for the common citizen to take up the desperate ethno-nationalist cause against foreign imperialists, if that cause is doomed?


Russia don't have the resources or the Ukrainian support to control the country, either directly or indirectly. They have the resources to snuff out the government, kill civilians and put in a puppet who might last a few months. Intel suggests Yanukovych is being prepped as the puppet, and we know just how popular he was. So it's not doomed at all, it just comes with a heavy cost
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You have to be very tough and there is a vetting process that is difficult. You wouldn't be able to make it.

It's what they consider fit for duty is much higher than your militia guy for example.



I just explained to you that this particular unit that you are praising has a history of all kinds of crooks and criminals serving. You should also look into stuff they did in Africa, foreign legion was used there to colonize counties and deal with tribal rebellion and such.

While you're at it make sure to look into Algerian war

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During the conquest, the French troops were known to have looted, raped and massacred entire villages, desecrated mosques and destroyed cemeteries. This was also done during the "Penetration Pacifique" of Algeria when the French expanded from the coast into the southern rural areas.
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Quote (Djunior @ Mar 6 2022 09:41am)
I just explained to you that this particular unit that you are praising has a history of all kinds of crooks and criminals serving. You should also look into stuff they did in Africa, foreign legion was used there to colonize counties and deal with tribal rebellion and such.

While you're at it make sure to look into Algerian war


You're blaming the foreign legion for France in it's entirety's stupid colonialism. It collapsed for a reason.
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