It's pretty simple math my man. Trillions not being spent on wars can either not be spent at all, which would result in our future generations not being enslaved with insurmountable amounts of debt or even if it was spent it can be spent on domestic things such as some form of socialized healthcare, infrastructure, job training, even some level of green subsidization.

I can think of a million better ways to spend 8 trillion, the cost of what we spent on Iraq, Afghanistan and Syria, etc that would actually benefit the ones closest to us. That's the bigger picture those countries are seeing, while we're kneecapping our future growth prospects.

This post was edited by ofthevoid on Jun 9 2022 05:20am

Death sentence to foreign mercenaries

https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/14870541

The "judges" and their entire families, should be soaked with fuel and burned alive, then have their ashes pissed on.

non-RU link;
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/09/britons-sentenced-to-death-russian-occupied-ukraine-aiden-aslin-shaun-pinner

This is the next logical step in the escalation of show trials between Ukraine and Russia. Instead of holding POWs by international law and treating them with dignity, both sides are going to mistreat them and use them for propaganda and subject them to show trials. No doubt Russia plans to continue exploiting these POWs as an example, probably going to let their sentence appeals drag out and try to trade them with the UK as leverage. I guess the difference between this and taking hostages is that Russia can maintain the fig leaf of legitimacy that they are mercenaries in an undeclared war, as opposed to Ukrainian POWs or innocent civilians. And that is no doubt why they're raising the stakes to the death penalty for posturing, as opposed to just detaining and dragging out trials for the likes of Brittney Griner

Ball is in Boris Johnson's court now.

This post was edited by Goomshill on Jun 9 2022 09:33am

All you mfs are gonna pay. You are the ones who are the b-lickers. We're gonna fck your mothers while you watch and cry like little, whiny b*tches. Once we get to Hollywood and find those Miramax fcks who is makin' the movie... we're gonna make them eat our sh*t, then sh*t out our sh*t, and then eat their sh*t that's made up of our sh*t that we made 'em eat. Then you're all you mfs are next. Love- Jay and Silent Bob. ©

This post was edited by Norlander on Jun 9 2022 09:59am

Well, these 8 trillion isn't really a good amount, as it involves home security and antiterrorism, also a lot of interest over years. Interest is like false money because of inflation. 1usd in 2030 wont be the same as 1usd in 2020.
What you dont understand is that currently USA is a world power leader. And benefits in various ways.
One of the ways, is if you help Ukrainians defend, you will get like 100mln close allies in central/eastern Europe.
Allies that spend a lot of cash on buying stuff from America. Just a few recent shoppings from Poland:
Tanks 5billion USD, Jet fighters 5Billion USD, patriot Rockets another 5billion USD.
Allies that keep buying your various stuff, like Windows, Iphones, Fords.
Allies that will keep Russia contained, once we include Ukraine into NATO.
If USA gives up their role now, central Europe becomes Russian, maybe even most of Europe, so we will become unwillingly western world enemies, and you guys will became a not important country like Brasil currently is. a liberal island in a world full of dictators, that quickly decays because of your low population.
You guys have a unique opportunity to lead the western world, and make a big use of that for yourself.
Also you say about Germany, but their politics is very stupid.
They made their whole economy fully dependant on a gas pipe from Russia. Now if Russia decides to stop sending them gas they are screwed. What country does that kind of dependence, especially with such unreliable partner?
Its same with military, they are fully dependant on USA, while we know its not that certain USA will defend Europe. Do you consider what they do Smart, even if they save some money in the short run?
I consider their leaders a total idiots, who play with fire.

Not only foreign mercenaries will face show trials, there are 2K+ from the Azov battalion that are def not considered ordinary POWs by Russia and will face a tribunal.

The thing is, this is a proxy war between NATO and Russia. And NATO doesn't give a shit about Ukrainian lives. We care more about what they do to 2 britons than what they do to 2000 azov battalion nazis. For Russia its more advantageous to have Ukrainians willing to surrender believing they'll be treated well, and for NATO to convince the Ukrainians to fight to the death believing surrender would get them tortured to death. But foreign fighters on the other hand, are pure leverage for Russia

I pretty much agree with that but the nazi tribunal is still going to be quite a propaganda showcase since Putin claimed the invasion was all about denazification.

This post was edited by Djunior on Jun 9 2022 10:50am

Did I mention that there's a moratorium on the death penalty in DNR? Knowing this the sentence shines in new colors.